It will be a while before I'm ready to line anything up, this trip wrecked my beer budget for a bit.
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It will be a while before I'm ready to line anything up, this trip wrecked my beer budget for a bit.
mikeysab
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Thats fair. keep me in mind when you're ready. Have yet to try one.
I sure will.
ledhead72486
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Fourths?
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wobrien
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Allen, did you need personal security to escort you out of there? Must've been tough to protect your wheel barrow of beer you hauled out...
Luckily I'm a bigger guy. There was a lot of pushing and shoving and chanting. The lady next to me took her shoe off and was going to hit a guy upside the head, but her husband stopped the show. Some people didn't even get their guaranteed 3 bottles.
How many did you get? I'm guessing all those in the pic weren't yours? Or did you have an army of mules with you? 
How many did you get? I'm guessing all those in the pic weren't yours? Or did you have an army of mules with you?
Those are all mine. 11-Huna, 3-Don Gavino sours and 1-Illuminating the Path.
Edit* some of the bottles are spoken for to finish the 2nd half of a trade.
Wrong thread, drunky. Nice beer though.
skeezerpleezer
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I will never support cigar city again unless they "make it right" like they said they would (for me that is airfare, hotel, ticket, and Huna). Today was the biggest cluster**** I have ever seen in my life, beer event or other. I have been to all the other big releases and some of them multiple times. I Was a couple people back when they sold out (prior to getting my "guaranteed") and witnessed CCB employees threatening women to fight, tell the people to **** off, and call the cops, etc. Near riots ensued. They are classless, tasteless *****ebags that have no clue how to run an event. Even though they claim they will fix it, they won't. Worst beer experience ever. I will post more details when on a computer.
There were definitely tense moments that were totally unnecessary. I don't see why there were so many people there when they said multiple times on FB that if you don't have a ticket, don't show up. A couple of people told us that they were selling beer fest only tickets at the gate (no guarantee of 3 bottles). It was great before 2pm, then it got so packed you couldn't move. I couldn't even begin to estimate how many people were there, other than way too many. I made out pretty well, but I totally abandoned the beer fest part by 1:30.
I'm all for great beer and if you can organize it so that you make $$ and keep the customer experience positive, you'll continue to make $ while having word of mouth advertising work for you. Otherwise, implement the "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" method and allow a controlled volume of people to be your spokesman and then let the distributors do the legwork for you while you collect a forecasted and hopefull amount of $.
mikeysab
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Distribute everything. No more messy brewery only releases.
I think Avery has their barrel releases down pretty solid, but the hype is much, much smaller and they do releases all the time. I've definitely been to some bad ones (I'm looking at you, Crooked Stave), but not on this level. I can't believe they ran out of beers when they "guaranteed" them.
Question: why were they letting people buy so many extras if they didn't have enough for that AND to fulfill the guaranteed beers?
Also, ICYMI, someone recorded the moment they ran out:
When Hunapu ran out video
Yup? Bad Business. If you anger more people than you please, it's not a success. You should aim to impress above and beyond a loyal and manageable demographic and then expand within reason. If successful, allow your distribution folks to do what they do best. As a producer and manufacturing point of view, breweries should do what they do best. Focus on good quality and high demand product. Allow the distributors to do what they do best and let them promote and "hype up" the product in a manner that give the customer a positive and desirable experience. That's my 2 cents.
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Granted, CCB obviously wasn't prepared for this situation and it wasn't handled well, but I don't believe it is entirely fair to place all of the blame on the breweries. After all, they aren't the ones that created all the hype. Yeah, they make a big deal out of the release BUT it is the consumer that creates this ridiculous demand.
I've never had Huna, and I'm sure it is a fantastic beer, but I'm sure as hell not going to spend hundreds of dollars on airfare, lodging, etc. to wait hours in line for a beer that I may or may not be able to get. After all, it's just beer...not the cure for cancer or world hunger, but beer.
If I luck out some day and manage to score a bottle in a trade, great, but if not, oh well...it's just beer. Chances are I'll get my hands on something as good or better in the near future. I'll drink it, love it, and then move on to the next beer because there is so much freaking great beer available these days.
Getting all butt-hurt and bent out of shape because a brewery falls short of the expectations of their over zealous fans seems unreasonable when it is ultimately the consumer that creates the demand. I'm a huge music fan, and many times I've not been able to see an act I wanted to see because tickets sold out before I could get one, but never have I stopped supporting a band because I wasn't quick enough to get a ticket. It isn't their fault (or problem) that SO many people like their product that some are left out when it comes to purchasing tickets, or beer in this case.
If Huna truly is some life altering beverage, feel free to send me a bottle to prove me wrong and maybe I'll change my tune, but for now I'll continue to enjoy the excellent shelf beers I am able to buy daily along with the great beers I manage to get in the occasional trade.
Sorry if I'm rambling a bit here, but I am rather buzzed and tired at the moment.
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I've never had Huna, and I'm sure it is a fantastic beer, but I'm sure as hell not going to spend hundreds of dollars on airfare, lodging, etc. to wait hours in line for a beer that I may or may not be able to get. After all, it's just beer...not the cure for cancer or world hunger, but beer.
If I luck out some day and manage to score a bottle in a trade, great, but if not, oh well...it's just beer. Chances are I'll get my hands on something as good or better in the near future. I'll drink it, love it, and then move on to the next beer because there is so much freaking great beer available these days.
Getting all butt-hurt and bent out of shape because a brewery falls short of the expectations of their over zealous fans seems unreasonable when it is ultimately the consumer that creates the demand. I'm a huge music fan, and many times I've not been able to see an act I wanted to see because tickets sold out before I could get one, but never have I stopped supporting a band because I wasn't quick enough to get a ticket. It isn't their fault (or problem) that SO many people like their product that some are left out when it comes to purchasing tickets, or beer in this case.
If Huna truly is some life altering beverage, feel free to send me a bottle to prove me wrong and maybe I'll change my tune, but for now I'll continue to enjoy the excellent shelf beers I am able to buy daily along with the great beers I manage to get in the occasional trade.
Sorry if I'm rambling a bit here, but I am rather buzzed and tired at the moment.
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Have you been to a big bottle release like this? It's more than just going down there to get the beer and leave.. People spend the money on airfare and lodging for these events not only for the incredible beer but for the event itself... Ive been to some releases and met some awesome people I keep in touch with... And it's different than your music ticket reference.. This would be if you did buy your ticket, went to the show, night a hotel and plane ticket to get there.. And the band never showed up
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That is bad management on the breweries end. They should have known how much extra they had and stopped selling above the guaranteed 3 once the extra was gone.
skeezerpleezer
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Because the brewery does not know how to run an event. It is going to be a **** show today. To help make up for it, all beer in their tap room is free today (so the first 100 people or whatever get to drink all day, while all the other already pissed off people stand in line).
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You ever scored tickets to a sold out concert, then got to the door and be told to bless off and leave? If not, I hope you do some time, then you can explain if you are butt hurt because of all the other hype creating fans or just pissed off because of poor planning. Little difference here IMO.
MrNickVT
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Exactly you had tickets. You didn't miss out on them. A guarantee is a guarantee and they didn't deliver their promise!
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Couldn't agree more.
The very reasons the attendees have noted in this thread are why I don't bother with "releases" or beer events. It's just beer. Who knows? One may not even like the beer when they open it.
This is the part I hate most about the craft beer scene. Not being able to get local beers especially because I don't want to stand in line for 2-3 hours when my local breweries say they will be tapping a keg of a new
beer.
I feel bad for skeezer as he paid to travel and spent considerable time getting there. If he was guaranteed to get bottles, then CCB just flat-out ****ed up.
Because they didn't set aside 10,500 bottles for banded attendees nor did they have a separate line for the allotment and the case bottle sales.
I saw early on that it was going to be a mess, so I got my allotment and took it to my truck.
Had they limited attendance to 3500 like they said, there wouldn't have been a problem.
Apparently they were also selling "beer fest" tickets without the bottle guarantee, but they were eligible for the case sales that were posted to start at 4pm.
This.
They start selling huna by the case at 4 p.m.. unfortunately they didnt pay attention to the fact that at 4 p.m. there were still people in line that hadnt received their 3 bottle guaranteed allotment.
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Damage control, starting with the easiest ways to show they know they f***ed up bad. Free beer and money back. I more then agree that it doesnt do much for those that missed out though.
skeezerpleezer
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I want 3 bottles of Huna for my silver wristband that guaranteed those 3 bottles. The $53 covers the cost of the beerfest, which was a complete **** show also. I probably got less than 24 oz of beer due to the long lines.....and I avoided the long lines such as Toppling Goliath which was probably 100+ people long. The fact that it took 1.5-2 hours just to get in the gate was ridiculous also.
And the free beer today is crap also. Limited capacity, free beer, open to the public? That will be a mess also.doesnt really matter to me though, I am on a plane headed back to Atlanta now anyway.
Here is a good recap of the event. http://dontdrinkbeer.com/2014/03/08/hunahpu-day-declared-most-successful-brewery-release-of-2014/
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I was not there, but this is exactly how I would feel had I not been given my guaranteed beer. It just seems like it was such a simple thing to prevent from happening.
The refund is kind of the quickest solution they have.
I guess I was perpetuating a rumor that I heard over and over that day about the beer fest only tickets. People were saying that because people were getting in without the silver bottle wrist band. But it only makes sense that they would run out of wrist bands. Apparently the ticket was easily duplicated, they even had a news story about the strange number of tickets available on Craigslist the day of the event. The ticket had a barcode and a QR code, but they were just scanning the QR code with their iPhones at the gate.
Email the jerks and tell em a minimum of 6 bottles of next years have the names of all the people
That got ****ed over this year, on them for the price you paid this year for ticket. Be sure to include the fact they should make more to appease those who got bent over this year and to not screw those who will be there next year by having less available. Quickest fix? No.
Fair? Effin A.
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That got ****ed over this year, on them for the price you paid this year for ticket. Be sure to include the fact they should make more to appease those who got bent over this year and to not screw those who will be there next year by having less available. Quickest fix? No.
Fair? Effin A.
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I heard they werent even scanning tickets at some point.
Thats the problem, they dont really have a great way to know who got screwed over.
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You can add jester king for the sour and funk. They didn't run out of beer, or rude/cusing. Just inefficient, long lines. Took 2 hrs before I even got my first beer and get back in line. Once it was dying down it got a lot better. Hopefully they fix their process. They apologize the next day.
What CCB did was wrong. Especially cusing and initiate a fight while not having enough guarantee beer. I was thinking of going next year but with this I might not go. I would be furious if I was in that situation
Next year they should have X amount of tickets and that's the only people that get in. They obvious needs to drop the amount of people that can enter the festival.
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What CCB did was wrong. Especially cusing and initiate a fight while not having enough guarantee beer. I was thinking of going next year but with this I might not go. I would be furious if I was in that situation
Next year they should have X amount of tickets and that's the only people that get in. They obvious needs to drop the amount of people that can enter the festival.
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Huna Day sounds a lot like the first couple big Dark Lord Days. Half-ass attempts to be fair met with chaos. When it's done right, it can be a ton of fun and every year I've went I've enjoyed myself, but the last few years I've been a bit on the fence on whether or not I even want to go. Of course, I need to add to my hoard, so i'll try to get tickets again this year.
Oh yeah, and add me to the list of people who would like to trade for a bottle.
Oh yeah, and add me to the list of people who would like to trade for a bottle.
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I have been to the past two dark Lord days and can say that DL vs Huna is like walmart at midnight on a random Sunday vs walmart at midnight on Black Friday.
The long line to get in to DL is at least enjoyable because of all the great beers being shared. No booze in the line at Huna. I did drink a couple Headys in line, but didn't see anyone else drinking at all.
The long line to get in to DL is at least enjoyable because of all the great beers being shared. No booze in the line at Huna. I did drink a couple Headys in line, but didn't see anyone else drinking at all.
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