Blazinlow86
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Looks fantasticMy latest homebrew, Lazy Haze:
As delicious as it is beautiful.
Looks fantasticMy latest homebrew, Lazy Haze:
As delicious as it is beautiful.
My latest homebrew, Lazy Haze:
My latest homebrew, Lazy Haze:
As delicious as it is beautiful.
Nice...what was your grain bill?
How to make HazyIPA in a pinch.
"A day without orange juice is like a day without sunshine"
Okay, a little reference to the Brewers Association style guidelines...
First, I think (hope) that everyone agrees that IPA actually started as an English export to... India. So if there were a good baseline of what the style should be, an English IPA should be about as close as it gets.
From the BA on American-Style India Pale Ale:
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American-Style India Pale Ale
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- Color: Gold to copper
- Clarity: Chill haze is acceptable at low temperatures. Hop haze is allowable at any temperature.
- Perceived Malt Aroma & Flavor: Low-medium to medium maltiness is present in aroma and flavor
- Perceived Hop Aroma & Flavor: Hop aroma and flavor is high, exhibiting floral, fruity (berry, tropical, stone fruit and other), sulfur/diesel-like, onion-garlic-catty, citrusy, piney or resinous character that was originally associated with American-variety hops. Hops with these attributes now also originate from countries other than the USA.
- Perceived Bitterness: Medium-high to very high
- Fermentation Characteristics: Fruity-estery aroma and flavor may be low to high. Diacetyl should not be perceived.
- Body: Medium-low to medium
- Additional notes: The use of water with high mineral content may result in a crisp, dry beer rather than a malt-accentuated version. Sugar adjuncts may be used to enhance body and balance. Hops of varied origins may be used for bitterness or for approximating traditional American character.
With me still? So far the two styles are fairly similar in Color, Clarity as well as malt and hop aroma/flavor and perceived bitterness. Subtle differences for sure..
But then out of left field comes what looks like a completely different beer...
From the BA on Juicy or Hazy India Pale Ale:
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Juicy or Hazy India Pale Ale
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- Color: Straw to deep gold
- Clarity: Low to very high degree of cloudiness is typical of these beers. Starch, yeast, hop, protein and/or other compounds contribute to a wide range of hazy appearance within this category.
- Perceived Malt Aroma & Flavor: Low to low-medium malt aroma and flavor may be present
- Perceived Hop Aroma & Flavor: Medium-high to very high hop aroma and flavor are present, with attributes typical of hops from any origin
- Perceived Bitterness: Medium-low to medium
- Fermentation Characteristics: Low to medium fruity-estery aroma and flavor may be present, but are usually overwhelmed by hop fruitiness. Diacetyl should not be perceived.
- Body: Medium-low to medium-high. Perceived silky or full mouthfeel may contribute to overall flavor profile.
- Additional notes: Grist may include a small amount of oat, wheat or other adjuncts to promote haziness. Descriptors such as “juicy” are often used to describe the taste and aroma hop-derived attributes present in these beers.
How did this ever get lumped in with "IPA"? Likely for marketing purposes since IPA has been pretty popular lately. And because of these things its taking over what folks think an IPA should be and prompting an acceptance of what would be considered flaws in most other styles.
Just saying... Can we get these beers in their own non-IPA category and MAKE IPA CLEAR AGAIN?
When comparing the AIPA and Hazy IPA, the malt taste and aroma are essentially the same. Same with the hop aroma and flavor. Literally the only difference is the haziness. And even then, hop cloudiness is acceptable at any temperature in an AIPA!
I think your blinders are keeping you from enjoying a great style. Evolution and adaptation is key and necessary in every facet of life. Beer not excluded.
Regarding "balance". Balance is in the eye of the beholder. Which beer is balanced....Stella Artois or Bells Two Hearted? Radically different beers, both considered pretty good beers. Is neither balanced (and thus poor beers)? Both balanced (but "for the style") and both are good? The answer is that there is no single proper "balance". A "balanced" beer is one that mixes flavors in a way that is appealing. Clearly NEIPAs are appealing given the wild popularity and takeover of the IPA taps, so I'd propose they're "balanced" (for their style).
What would everyone who has had it call this? View attachment 619265
I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion or tell anyone they are wrong. I'm only pointing out the technical aspects of each beer as outlined by the BJCP.I don’t think this is true at all. Hazy IPAs have a very different flavor (lower bitterness but more steeped hop character) and mouthfeel to me. It sounds like you’re saying they’re just WCIPAs that look funny.
Would you honestly order a blonde ale and push it away it tasted ok but had haze.
Neipas are absolutely ipas. Having haze as a byproduct of the recipe shouldn't be frowned upon, IMO.
Man you really don't like hazy beers. Tell the kids to stay off your lawnUh... Define haze again? A blonde ale should be clear. If I was served a "blonde ale" that I couldn't see through, yes its going back regardless of taste!
Again we need to define haze. The examples that have prompted this thread aren't simply affected from dry-hop induced haze or chill haze... They are excessively turbid and resemble a glass of fruit juice. And I should really be mentioning the lack of bitterness more as another characteristic that moves most of these out of the IPA category.
Call them Juiceweizen, FruitWit or anything but IPA. On that note, why not just call them Hefeweizen? Those beers are "hazy", have a lot of wheat in them and have fruity character...
Man you really don't like hazy beers.
Apparently it was so under exposed that you missed the beer and its relevance to the topic so you had no choice but to reply with a snarky response that offers nothing other than either a back handed insult or a sense of humor similar to my cousins. I suspect the latter and you think you are funny. Good on you gramps!A seriously underexposed photo?
What would everyone who has had it call this? View attachment 619265
Apparently it was so under exposed that you missed the beer and its relevance to the topic so you had no choice but to reply with a snarky response that offers nothing other than either a back handed insult or a sense of humor similar to my cousins. I suspect the latter and you think you are funny. Good on you gramps!
Actually ot this beer is somewhere in the middle and I remain genuinely curious where those that have drank it see it in this discussion.
We rarely get this one, usually around gabf time. I got this at ABC liquor in stuart [emoji2] . I think these guys are awesome brewers.How do you get St Pete beers in colo?
Haha, remember don't call me Francis! Will do.Lighten up Francis-and say hello to your cousin for me.
How to make HazyIPA in a pinch.
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