I would not mix ministry with beer/brewing.... or anything else.
When I was saved I was DJing Raves in LA. After I quit, I tried DJing for 'Christian' events. God was not honored through that.
I don't discuss beer or brewing with anyone at Church. I can't imagine anything positive would result.
http://www.gty.org/blog/b110809
Bierliebhaber said:We are treading dangerous ground if we try to compartmentalize our lives. For a person living an authentic life of Christian faith their life is ministry. If you're going to have beer as a hobby, as well, it will by nature of your life be present in ministry at some point.
Do I not talk about cake because someone is obese?
Do I using a credit card around those addicted to shopping or consumerism?
Do I not talk about work because some are workaholics?
Do I not talk about healthy sexual relationships in front of those addicted to sex?
Do I avoid letting anyone at church see my laptop because some are porn addicts?
When was the last time tables were turn upside down because a fat congregation brought greasy, fattening food to a potluck and gorged themselves?
Scripture instructs us to enjoy our spouse' body.
...to enjoy food.
...to enjoy the product of our labor.
All of these enjoyed in the proper context and within reason.
There are times to enjoy sex and times to abstain.
...times to enjoy food, even indulge in feasting, and times to abstain.
...times to work and times to rest.
The SAME goes for beer and/or other alcohol beverages. They are to be enjoyed, as appropriate. The consumption of food and alcohol as a means of celebration CAN BE and ARE modes of worship.
I grow exceedingly tired of the exploitation of the "stumbling block" excuse. This refers to weakness in knowledge and understanding that may result in a crisis of faith. This does not refer self-control. I have little patience for those who have been christians for years and claim someone is a stumbling block to them. If this were somehow the case, they would be self-professed perpetually weak in their faith. Anyways, this stance or argument has been abused for far too long.
A bit of a rant...apologies!
So do you also feel that it's appropriate to integrate sexual activities with worship? Because to me, service to God is in itself a joyous and sacred thing and need not be mingled with fleshly pleasures such as drinking alcohol. In fact is is mentioned in the bible “Do not drink wine or intoxicating liquor, you and your sons with you, when YOU come into the tent of meeting". A bit of a rant... Apologies
So do you also feel that it's appropriate to integrate sexual activities with worship? Because to me, service to God is in itself a joyous and sacred thing and need not be mingled with fleshly pleasures such as drinking alcohol. In fact is is mentioned in the bible “Do not drink wine or intoxicating liquor, you and your sons with you, when YOU come into the tent of meeting". A bit of a rant... Apologies
Knowing that this is a forum for homebrewers, I'm not expecting anybody on here to have any objections to a minister who brews and drinks.
interesting link m1k3, but I'm not sure that advocating against drinking is going to work here, unless the link is more against mixing drink and ministry (like advice against drinking and doing things that require concentration and motor control).
The 1 Chronicles 9:29 was the one I'm thinking. "Other's of them" refers to 'other Levites' of the Priesthood.
Btw, I'm NOT a priest, pastor, father, etc. Just a servant of God.
My parents had one of those ARM's back before they were fashionable and from 2000 to 2002 the bank raised their mortgage from $500/mo to $1200/mo and they lost the house.
They were living in their van and were 'adopted' by a group of people known as The Mushroomers. Mushroomers pay $100 a year for a permit that allows them to camp in the National Forest and pick mushrooms that can't be cultivated.
They are a rough bunch of people with poor social skills and most of them have an addiction or four. My parents weren't really accepted as part of the group until they had a beer with them. They showed my parents the ropes: what mushrooms were good, where to sell them, where to get a cheap travel trailer, where to camp, etc.
My parents kept a Bible out at their campsite and on average, 3 people a day would stop by and ask their advice on something and my parents had the opportunity to share Scriptures and teach them some Godly wisdom.
Eventually, one of the Mushroomers asked if they could go to church with my parents. My parents took him to the Methodist church they normally attended and ended up being embarrassed by how poorly their friend was treated there. After that, they started attending the Baptist church in town.
Over a couple of years, my parents ended up getting 6 of the Mushroomers involved in the church. Even though the Baptists are traditionally less tolerant of alcohol, that congregation loved everybody and always welcomed anyone who came.
I think beer can open doors. None of those people would have ever gone to church if my parents didn't have a beer with them. However, love seems to be more important. The Baptist never drank with them, they just showed them that they cared.
Applied to the OP's question, I would say that if brewing is part of who you are, and the congregation can't love you, no matter their personal feelings about alcohol, you probably aren't where you are supposed to be.
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Well actually, the bible clearly stayed that the earth will stand to time indefinite, and the righteous shall reside in it. The meek shall inherit the earth, etc. (Psalm 37). It was indeed Gods original purpose to have man dwell upon the earth for eternity as he set out to do in the garden of Eden with Adam. Gods purposes do not change, only the route he takes to reach them. Therefore, I intent to be drinking delicious beer for a very, very long time. I definitely agree with your point that being "saved" means repenting and changing. It doesn't do any good to save someone from a burning building if they keep running back inside.m1k3 said:deleted post
Well actually, the bible clearly stayed that the earth will stand to time indefinite, and the righteous shall reside in it. The meek shall inherit the earth, etc. (Psalm 37). It was indeed Gods original purpose to have man dwell upon the earth for eternity as he set out to do in the garden of Eden with Adam. Gods purposes do not change, only the route he takes to reach them. Therefore, I intent to be drinking delicious beer for a very, very long time. I definitely agree with your point that being "saved" means repenting and changing. It doesn't do any good to save someone from a burning building if they keep running back inside.
Oddball said:Unfortunately for you, I am sure you will have some members, both old and young, who will not share your passion and be adamantly against it. I am afraid that it might even cost you your job, or at least make your life difficult, if the wrong people get wind of it. Like others have said, it really depends on the congregation and how much you want to share your personal life. I don't mean to discourage you but you are walking a thin line...
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