Golden Promise grain

[telebrewer]

Has anyone ever used this grain? My LHS was out of 2 row. This was suggested for an IPA. I'm making a West Coast sytle IPA, hopped out.

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts.

Thanks.

 

[theheroguy]

Personally I find GP (and some pilsner malts) to be to sweet. If you do use it mash it LOW to minimize additional sweetness.

 

[BrewerBrad82]

I have used it quite extensively and I love it. If you have used Maris Otter, it is pretty similar. It has a nice bready flavor with a slight toastiness. It works very very well in IPAs, since it provides a delicious malty backbone to balance out the hop character. It is actually one of the main grains in Surly Brewing Company's Furious IPA (which is damn good stuff).

http://surlybrewing.com/beer/furious/

 

[hunter_le five]

Has anyone ever used this grain? My LHS was out of 2 row. This was suggested for an IPA. I'm making a West Coast sytle IPA, hopped out.

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts.

Thanks.

Golden Promise is good stuff. It's kinda similar to Maris Otter. It is technically a variety of 2-row. Slightly darker and slightly less protein content than US 2 row, and a bit for flavorful.

It will definitely work for an IPA, but I would expect there to be a bit more malt character in the final product compared to American 2-row.

 

[ba-brewer]

More character then generic 2row, but less than a pale ale malt. The subtle differences might be lost in an IPA. It is used in the surly furious IPA.

 

[telebrewer]

Personally I find GP (and some pilsner malts) to be to sweet. If you do use it mash it LOW to minimize additional sweetness.

Like how low? 150F?

 

[theheroguy]

Like how low? 150F?

like 148 with something to build body if you think it's going to be too thin.

 

[BrewerBrad82]

150 would work well. Its generally a good idea to mash all malt IPAs pretty low just to encourage high attenuation to make a dry beer.

 

[theheroguy]

I should note that I have weird and often seemingly contradictory taste preferences so just go ahead with it and see what happens probably.

 

[douglasbarbin]

Surly "Todd the Axe Man" is 100% Golden Promise malt.

 

[Natdavis777]

I have a Mosaic Promise Clone on tap (Mosaic GP Smash) and while its not as hoppy as the real deal, it is still very good with a nice Mosaic presence. Very drinkable pale. It was my first time using the malt and I like flavor contribution. I think it would suit well in an IPA

 

[BeatnikTom]

Sounds like you need a new LHS. That's pretty unacceptable thing to be out of.

 

[JonM]

And Toppling Goliath's wonderful Golden Nugget is all Golden Promise too.

 

[brrman]

GP is an awesome grain. I don't find it too sweet, you simply have to know the grain when adding it to a recipe. Just adjust the hops bitterness to be slightly up to match malt profile.

If the beer is too sweet, then the brewer made it that way. No grain is too sweet. That's like saying Belgian Candi sugar is too sweet.

 

[Bandit-brewer]

It's the base grain for my house pale (porn star pale). I use BRY-97 at 65f and it comes out with a nice peachy taste that compliments everything.

 

[SpeedYellow]

Sounds like a great candidate for a SMASH pale ale.

 

[kh54s10]

I use GP a lot. It does have more character than standard 2 row. What temperature you mash is dependent on the recipe and desired results. More malty = higher temperature. I often use it with 2 row when doing a very pale ale. It gives the beer more flavor than 2 row alone.

It makes great Scottish Ales.

 

[Natdavis777]

Whilst sipping on my GP smash at the moment, I can say it lends less of a grainy taste you will get with standard US 2 Row.

 

[dryboroughbrewing]

Sucking down some IPA right now, 98% GP, 2% carafoam, Conan yeast, and a boatload of last year's Simcoe crop ... definitely adds some sweetness and a bit of toasty flavor when compared to a similar grist using just 2 row. (I've been making a lot of super hoppy IPAs to clear some freezer space for the incoming season)

 

[iijakii]

I've never tried Golden. I'm very familiar with MO -- can you guys try to quantify the difference in regards to MO? Are we talking a few percent of crystal added sweetness or just marginal? More toasty?

 

[chickypad]

There's a nice write up on Engish base malts here for those who haven't seen it.