Right time for the update well the first batch was a bad one somehow something went wrong so it was a throw away. But good news second brew a velvet stout was spot on I'm drinking it and all I can say is its great. I'm currently brewing a copper bitter and once that's barrelled I'm starting my christmas ale so its got plenty of time to mature.rhen its a pear cider and then a shopping trick for some more kits and bottles and crates to store the final product. So its a lesson learned with first brew and lessons still being learned from here on. And a thanks to all that helped with advice and incurragment.