OK, I came across a cheap little 90 amp Titan Vaper, crap mig machine. Flux core, up to 1/8 gauge, which is what I've got going possibly. Local sale, can probably get it to $100. Worth it, if I decide to pull the trigger on mild steel?
OK, great information. Gives me some things to consider - thanks. Per below, I don't want to spend any money on the frame that I don't need to - it can sure be used in other brewing needs. I am strongly leaning to stainless because of what I thought was a better functionality, durability, across time. Like I say below, and like the brewer I've been in touch implied, if uncoated mild could hold for 20 years as an outside (protected) rig, there'd be zero question for me. I've got round heat shields in ss from Brewer's Hardware already - is there a problem joining ss to mild, anywhere? Because I'm also thinking of making only the "hot" parts stainless, and keeping the rest mild.
I can see this decision is going to take longer than I'd originally thought, lol.
Thanks again.
They make a few different stainless stick electrodes. Some for stainless on stainless and others that can weld mild to stainless. I wouldnt stick weld stainless with a standard mild steel electrode though. Shoot they even got aluminum electrodes but they are probably best for in field emergency work.I'm not worried at all about aesthetics, just looking for functionality. If uncoated mild really could hold up 60 gallons across its frame for 20 years, I'd completely be down with that. If using a standard electrode on stainless, I know it will be ugly but I thought that was taboo, mixing stainless and mild in a weld, because you'll induce corrosion. Funny you say this though because I'm reading through some books and the first "tig" machine they show is an ancient buzzbox. Looks like I need to read the chapter, and check out the vids. Thanks.
You can weld stainless to carbon steel. I could put my stand outside without paint, and my kid could use is 30 years from now. I would not make anything less than 10ga/1/8. Ill see if I can dig up my build pics of my stand. Like I said if I were building mode#2, mild frame, shrouds stainless. I have zero problem with mine being all mild steel. I had the money and the ability to fab mine out of stainless. I couldnt see spending the money for it. My stand really hasnt changed in the years of Brewing with it. Do I think stainless is Mac Daddy, yes I do. Would I do mild again, yes.
Also, Ill add that I would not arc weld stainless, TIG only IMO.
They make a few different stainless stick electrodes. Some for stainless on stainless and others that can weld mild to stainless. I wouldnt stick weld stainless with a standard mild steel electrode though. Shoot they even got aluminum electrodes but they are probably best for in field emergency work.
Casual, you're talking SMAW, and not MIG, right? Never knew they had something that could join mild to ss. Interesting.
I know this is a zombie thread revival, but my $0.02.
Materials: regular steels is just fine. Stainless is cool because it's shiny, but it sure isn't needed for a stand. As long as you aren't storing it outside in the elements it will be fine. Do not overthink this. If you really just want stainless because of the bling factor that's fine, but do not think that you need stainless for it to survive.
Welding: I teach complete noobs to weld with both MIG and TIG. You do NOT need to start at Oxy before going to TIG. In fact I'd almost stay avoid it. TIG does take a lot of practice though, especially if you've never done any welding, but it can be done. If you can find a local school or makerspace that gives classes, take them. Having live feedback is invaluable. Start with regular mild steel and practice practice practice. Stainless is not hard, it's just more of a drama queen. It doesn't conduct heat as well as mild steel, so you need less power in the weld, and you need to think about warp prevention more. Thin stuff will always be harder, but regular thicknesses are a joy to weld in stainless.
MIG can do stainless, but you really need a decent machine, plus special wire, plus expensive gas. If you're limiting yourself to a cheap MIG/flux core machine as your gateway then just stick to regular steel. I like to start people on MIG when they learn to weld because it's so much easier to pick up, but I've started several people on TIG as their first learned process and they pick it up fine. You won't lay instagram quality stack of dime beads right away, but who cares.
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