Low Gravity Tart Saison

[zgja2]

Greeting HBTers

Fine tuning a summer recipe and looking for insight. Looking to brew a summer quafer. The below recipe will be sour worted using GoodBelly Probiotic drink (works great, direct pitch, costs $3!) for about 24 hours then primaried with 3711. My only concern that with such low SG may end up too thin. I figured i would counteract with some munich and some flaked wheat. Thanks for the insight!!

Title: Baby Squeaker

Brew Method: BIAB
Style Name: Saison
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5.5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 7.5 gallons
Boil Gravity: 1.026
Efficiency: 75% (brew house)


STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.035
Final Gravity: 1.006
ABV (standard): 3.78%
IBU (tinseth): 17
SRM (morey): 3.66

FERMENTABLES:
3 lb - Belgian - Pilsner (43.5%)
2 lb - Belgian - Munich (29%)
1.4 lb - Belgian - Wheat (20.3%)
0.5 lb - Flaked Wheat (7.2%)

HOPS:
0.25 oz - Magnum, : Boil for 60 min, IBU: 16.12
0.5 oz - Hallertau, : Boil for 5 min, IBU: 1.67
0.5 oz - Hallertau, Boil for 0 min

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Temp: 150 F, Time: 60 min

YEAST:
Wyeast - French Saison 3711

 

[m00ps]

Munich wont give it more body, just a maltier flavor. I dont think it has a place in saisons. The saisons I used a bit of Munich in I ended up wishing I left it out.

3711 always imparts a decent body, even to very low FG beers. I would still add some more wheat or flaked wheat

 

[beergolf]

I like the idea of a low gravity saison. I would not worry about it being thin. So I would not use the Munich. (but that is my opinion) To me it is out of place in a saison, maybe a very small amount, but not 29%. I f it was my brew I would just use all pils.

Keep it simple. With all that wheat and the fact that 3711 will give good mouth feel, even when it finishes low. In fact count on it finishing closer to 1.000.

A good saison in the summer is always good. Heck a good saison is always good. I always have a couple of different ones ready.

 

[zgja2]

yea i guess i worded that wrong. Not so much looking for body because as yall stated, the 3711 should help maintain at least the perception of body. I guess i wanted to ensure it had a touch of malt flavor. I do love flaked adjuncts in many styles.

How about....

4 lb - Belgian - Pilsner (57.1%)
2 lb - Belgian - Wheat (28.6%)
1 lb - Flaked Wheat (14.3%)

 

[zgja2]

Also. For something this low gravity should i shoot for lower IBU or am i on target here? Shooting for balanced tartness, malt, yeast. Thanks!

 

[m00ps]

I dont see anything wrong with the current plan you got. I dont fret too much on IBUs for saisons unless I am using large amounts of non-noble type hops.

The yeast is really the focus for saisons. Its not meant to be "balanced." Its super dry, crisp, carbonated, and refreshing. If my saison has enough malt backbone where it finishes a bit sweet like an irish red, I'm not drinking it.