Lagunitas/Pliny studied DIPA feedback please

[bannerj]

I've made a couple mediocre DIPAs and need help. The recipe below represents the hops I have on hand, some studying of various attempts at Lagunitas' Sucks for the grain bill, and the logic of the Pliny clone for the hops schedule.

Thanks!



Boil Size: 7.84 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.34 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.084 SG
Estimated Color: 6.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 196.3 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.3 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
13 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 71.2 %
1 lbs 12.8 oz Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 9.5 %
1 lbs 12.8 oz Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM) Grain 3 9.5 %
9.6 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4 3.2 %
8.0 oz Oats, Malted (1.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.6 %
12.0 oz Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 6 4.0 %
2.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 90. Hop 7 101.3 IBUs
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60. Hop 8 18.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 9 32.3 IBUs
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 40. Hop 10 16.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 11 27.0 IBUs
0.31 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 12 -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 0.0 Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast 16 -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop Hop 17 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 12.0 Days Hop 18 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 12.0 Days Hop 19 0.0 IBUs
0.25 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop Hop 20 0.0 IBUs
0.25 oz Nugget [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 21 0.0 IBUs
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 22 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: BIAB, Full Body
Total Grain Weight: 18 lbs 15.2 oz

 

[Brewmex41]

What's your water profile like?

 

[bannerj]

I haven't looked at a report because a few friends use the same water with great success. Its an old house though. I just added a carbon filter. I've also been experimenting with gypsum and lactic acid.

 

[zoomzilla]

It looks like you are using dry yeast. For a gravity that high I would recommend pitching two packs.

 

[bannerj]

I'm repitching with a slurry of 04

 

[Demus]

I haven't looked at a report because a few friends use the same water with great success. Its an old house though. I just added a carbon filter. I've also been experimenting with gypsum and lactic acid.

Experimenting with gypsum and lactic acid without knowing your water profile is shooting in the dark. Most municipal supplies will give you a free report but I think the analysis from Ward Labs is well worth the money. For example, maybe your water could use some more calcium but is already high in sulfite. Adding gypsum (calcium sulfite) would be a bad idea, and calcium chloride would be a better choice. The point is, without knowing your profile you have just as much chance of making it worse with any additions.

 

[bannerj]

Okay. Cool. Thx for the tips on water. I've made some awesome pale ales and ipas with the bits of adds on gypsum and lactic.

I really am looking for help with grains and hops. Thx

 

[jeff62217]

I'd move some of those hop additions after 60 minutes closer to 5 -15 to go in the boil

 

[aeviaanah]

+1 on water report


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[bannerj]

I'd move some of those hop additions after 60 minutes closer to 5 -15 to go in the boil

I'll move some of the hops to 5-15. What I have above is the schedule for the late adds on the pliny

 

[Banjorium]

I agree with the others that late hop additions are going to be important to get the most bang out of those pellets. I had really hard water at my previous house, and didn't really know what I was dealing with in terms of water. When I finally started using distilled and adding salts to manually create my profile I noticed a huge difference for the better.

Let us know how it turns out, it looks tasty!