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I have my beer ready to go and I want to sell it. I would like to sell it in 24oz cans. How do I go about doing this? is it better to get my own canning machine or should I get someone else to do it for me?
 
Is this the same person that put their sanitizer water in their primary? lol someone check IP's please.
 
So have you filed your paperwork with the Federal, State and Local authorities to become a legal brewery then? I kinda of thought that packaging decisions and label approval had to be made at the same time.

Otherwise it is illegal in any way shape or form to sell, trade or barter with HOMEBREW.
 
We need more info about the liscenses you have obtained to be able to sell it in order to help you.

Until then I am just going to keep laughing at you
 
Instead of paying someone to can it for you, just put it in old soup cans with saran wrap over the top and a rubber band. The tricky part is getting the rubberband tight enough for the beer to carb up.

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To get started, you need to contact your local government about the laws that apply to you and how to go about contacting the federal agencies involved.

Also keep in mind this is a homebrewing community. You may want to check out probrewers.com. They're the ones doing this for a living. We follow two laws here. 1) Keep it under 100 Gallons per year per person in a household up to 200 gallons per year. 2) Don't try to sell it.

This question comes up at least once a month with someone who just brewed their first beer and thinks they can just drop it off at the local bar and start collecting cash. If you're looking to start a business of brewing beer, you need to do a lot of research. How to get it into cans is several months of work and likely several thousand dollars away. Try giving your beer away first. and If this is your first batch, you're likely not to the point of selling yet.

Nobody is trying to be an *******, they're just trying to bring you back to reality.
 
Ive been on google for 2 hours. Can someone just tell me the best way to get this stuff canned?
 
emd023 said:
ok thanks for the help ********
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Relax were just having a little fun. If you use the search function on here youll see this comes up quite often. And for most people the cost and the regulations make it not worth the trouble.
 
IrregularPulse said:
TO get started, you need to contact your local government about the laws that apply to you and how to go about contacting the federal agencies involved.

Also keep in mind this is a homebrewing community. You may want to check out probrewers.com. They're the ones doing this for a living. We follow two laws here. 1) Keep it under 100 Gallons per year per person in a household up to 200 gallons per year. 2) Don't try to sell it.
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thank you.
 
emd023 said:
Ive been on google for 2 hours. Can someone just tell me the best way to get this stuff canned?
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Unless you have a big machine canning isnt possible. Bottling is easy. Any homebrew shop should have a bottle capper. Or the like of midwestsupply.com, austinhomebrew.com etc.
 
emd023 said:
ok thanks for the help ********
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Wow....Nice....

Before you can get it canned, you have to be a legal brewery. It is illegal to sell homebrew. You need to start here

http://www.ttb.gov/beer/qualify.shtml

That's the feds, you'll have to do your own googling for the state and loca liscensing you need to be able to sell your beer.

As to canning, there are very few cheap options form the microbrewer, and NONE for the homebrewer. The canning lines for commercial breweries usually start at a run of a minimum of 10,000 units if I recall.

I could provide you the link for that, but it would be useless to you unless you were already a incensed commercial brewery.

And I bet you you are as far from that as I am from having a threesome with twin Irish redhead pornstars. Because if you were liscened, you would probably have been contacted by all manner of bottling companies interested in having your business, and you would already KNOW how to get your beer canned.
 
emd023 said:
Thank you guys. I got the info I needed.
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Share with us what you found out as far as canning goes. Are you gonna' put it in mason jars and hide'em under your trailer porch so Boss Hogg don't see'em?
 
I wonder how many of us get this idea, get a look at that page, then say to hell with it, im just happy to drink my own.
 
emd023 said:
Im going to buy my own machine. I have someone to invest with me.
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What kind of beer is it? What is your brewery called? Can we see a sample of the label so we know what to look for on the shelves?
 
http://www.midwestsupplies.com/red-baron-bottle-capper.html

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http://www.midwestsupplies.com/plain-gold-caps-144-count.html

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Did you know that you can reuse your old budweiser cans? REALLY! all you have to do is lift up the mouth so it snaps back into place after you fill it with your own beer! just make sure you sanitize first or else you could get an infection :(
 
pwndabear said:
Did you know that you can reuse your old budweiser cans? REALLY! all you have to do is lift up the mouth so it snaps back into place after you fill it with your own beer! just make sure you sanitize first or else you could get an infection :(
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or that.


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emd023 said:
Im going to buy my own machine. I have someone to invest with me.
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Aw...those first batch fantasies.....My beer is the sh!ts and joe down the block is going to shill for me.

I guess he has a few mill he's willing to piss away eh? :)

Hopefully he can follow this from Probrewer.com

I'm in the due dillegence stage for startup and have some questions about the TTB's Brewer's Bond and sureties in general. Many more questions will come as I'm finding the regulatory environment a bit overwhelming.

As I understand it, the brewer's bond covers only excise tax. Is this statement correct? At 10%, or the minimum coverage of $1000 for brewers with less than $10,000 per annum federal excise tax, is a surety required or can the brewer just post a $1000 bond? If the brewer posts the $1000 himself, is this what is being referred to as a "collateral bond"?

With respect to the state bond, I understand that all states are very different but read that surety bond providers generally cost 0.5 to 2% of the contract amount, which seems awful small to me. For microbreweries, I saw examples ranging from $3000 to $30,000. Could someone provide me with a little info on this or point me in the right direction?
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It's greek to me.

But I think before you can even fill your first can the label has to be approved, and before you get to that stage you have to be approved, and in order to do that you have to have submittied this...to even be considered for a commercial liscense.

WHAT YOU MUST DO:

First, you should become familiar with TTB regulations related to beer in the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 27 Part 25.

The following forms must be properly completed and submitted to TTB:

* TTB F 5130.10, Brewer’s Notice
* TTB F 5130.22, Brewer’s Bond, or TTB F 5130.25, Brewer’s Collateral Bond, whichever is applicable (TWO ORIGINALS, NO PHOTOCOPIES)
* TTB F 5000.9, Personnel Questionnaire, for each officer, director, and stockholders of more than 10 percent, member and partner (SINGLE COPY)
* TTB F 5000.29, Environmental Information
* TTB F 5000.30, Supplemental Information on Water Quality Considerations
* Signing authority, if applicable

In addition, you must file a:

* Diagram of the brewery premises
* Description of the brewery premises
* Legal Description of the Brewery – based on the lot, such as in your county records
* Statement describing the security at the brewery
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And I don't think "Momma's Basement" is a good enough description of the brewery premises.;)

Best of luck to you....
 
pwndabear said:
Did you know that you can reuse your old budweiser cans? REALLY! all you have to do is lift up the mouth so it snaps back into place after you fill it with your own beer! just make sure you sanitize first or else you could get an infection :(
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I also read on the internet that simcoe hops taste like grapefruit. ;)
 
My morbid curiosity has got me dying to follow this canning project.
 
IrregularPulse said:
Very nice link Revvy. My head hurts though. Thanks a lot :p
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I'm getting heart palpations just reading through what is required just to get your beer label approved, before you could even can/bottle.

http://www.ttb.gov/beer/labeling.shtml

Remember a couple years ago a brewery had a beer pulled back and was fined for putting the beer on the market before the label had been totally approved. It was posted on here/
 
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