Stauffbier
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Can you good folks recommend a couple reliable sources for ordering rhizomes. I'm in the desert southwest, if it matters...
Stauffbier said:Can you good folks recommend a couple reliable sources for ordering rhizomes. I'm in the desert southwest, if it matters...
Id go with great lakes hops... Such a good deal on hops. Where bouts in southern California do you live??
I'm actually in El Paso, TX (darn near in Mexico) not California.. Thanks for the resource! I'll check them out. I'm an avid gardener, so I figure growing hops should come easy to me..
Stauffbier said:I'm actually in El Paso, TX (darn near in Mexico) not California.. Thanks for the resource! I'll check them out. I'm an avid gardener, so I figure growing hops should come easy to me..
I have 5 different varieties growing in my backyard. Well I should say four, Willamette hates it in El Paso, the sun tortures it. The ones that are doing well in our dry weather are Chinook and Cascade. Then it is followed by Centennial and Columbus. The Chinook and Cascade both are animals and love the sun, though if I could re plant them I would ignore a lot of the advice I got online. In our climate it is better to not plant them in a mount, the soil is hard to keep wet even if youre trying. Also do not plant them in the full sun, then you will be like me having to water them twice a day. Hope all goes well, if you need some rhizomes shoot me a pm I will be more than happy to dig some up for you.
I have 5 different varieties growing in my backyard. Well I should say four, Willamette hates it in El Paso, the sun tortures it. The ones that are doing well in our dry weather are Chinook and Cascade. Then it is followed by Centennial and Columbus. The Chinook and Cascade both are animals and love the sun, though if I could re plant them I would ignore a lot of the advice I got online. In our climate it is better to not plant them in a mount, the soil is hard to keep wet even if youre trying. Also do not plant them in the full sun, then you will be like me having to water them twice a day. Hope all goes well, if you need some rhizomes shoot me a pm I will be more than happy to dig some up for you.
Would you have a problem digging up some rhizomes and shipping them up here to Lubbock? The county I live in is very successful growing wine grapes and ive been wanting to experiment with hops. Im a farmer but transitioning from cotton and peanuts to grapes and hops isnt going to be easy.
I might suggest still doing mounds but watering in the evening or covering the mounds (except the vine of course) to prevent too much evaporation. Should give you better draining and insulation. I think the main problem is that you'll get lots of vine growth but not as much hop production because of the length of day, I remember reading something about it in another thread about New Zealand growers.
Disclaimer: not an expert, just enthusiast. The other Texas growers definitely know more than me here.
Yeah what Randar said.
Also have you heard about growers using lights at night to trick the hops? I swear I heard that somewhere, seems like it would be a bit of a hassle and annoy the neighbors, but these are hops we're talking about...
send me one of your homebrews and you got yourself a deal. pm me your address.
Sounds like a plan. They should do a lot better in Querque than down here because of the lower temps. As soon as they start popping up I'll get you some.Im in Abq , trade 2 double chinook IPAs for some Carlsbad digs?
I live in Laredo, Tx (The Devils Anus) and will be trying to grow Cascade, Centennial and Chinook this year.
I can say that over the past 10-12 years I have planted many varieties of hops in my southern New Mexico backyard and the only ones that have survived more than one season are Cascades. This year I'm planting some native (https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f92/has-anyone-grew-neomexicana-hops-453441/) varieties, and hope to secure some wild rhizomes from nearby in the next month or 2.You know, people like to repeat conventional wisdom even though they have no new evidence of information to share!
Why do we think hops only grow well up north? Not because of any controlled experiment, but because that's what farmers think.
Why do farmers think that? Probably because hops have always been grown at high latitudes.
Why have hops always been grown at high latitudes? Who can say for sure without doing an experiment? It may just be that beer was popular at high latitudes, and nobody ever really tried to grow them in Southern Europe.
Plant anyway, Southern Brewers!
I've done quite a bit of searching to determine the best hop variety to plant. I've found plenty of descriptions that say "All climates" (what does that mean all climates in the hop growth zone 35 deg lat to 55 deg, or all climates on earth?) I haven't found anything that says this plant will do well in hot and humid conditions.
I have found two posts that say Willamette and Cascade do ok in hot weather, with pictures of decent first year growth. However, the second and third years the plant start to die off. The problem with that is, you never know if they just lost interest or if hops just won't grow in this climate.
I have yet to find someone that has been harvesting hops over 3 or more years in hot weather. If you know of any I would love to hear about it.
My house is east facing, so I'm hoping that they will only get direct sun in the mornings, and not get baked by the sun in the afternoon.
I've narrowed my options to these:
Galena
Cascade
Nugget
Newport
Mount Hood
Centennial
based on climate/yield from:
http://www.northwesthops.com/Is_it_an_aroma_hop_or_a_bittering_hop_s/24.htm
I have yet to find someone that has been harvesting hops over 3 or more years in hot weather. If you know of any I would love to hear about it.
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