n240sxguy
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Love how they just randomly shorten brewery names. Yeah, I'll have some yuenglin and a dogfish. I wonder if they thought they named the beers after parts of a fish? Like dogfish tail, or dogfish fin.
Me: Which Dogfish Head beer do you have?
Bartender: I'm not sure. It's really dark though.
Me: Ok....which Great Lakes beer do you have?
Bartender: I don't know, do you want me to find out?
Me: No that's ok. Can you ask which Dogfish Head beer it is though?
Bartender: Sure. (She calls the upstairs bar and returns) It's just the Dogfish Head. Would you like one?
Me: No thanks. I'll just keep looking at the selection.
At this point I decide to walk upstairs to check out the taps for myself. I find that it is indeed the Dogfish Head 60 Min IPA (clearly stated on the tap handle). I look over a few more and see the Ithaca Country Pumpkin Ale. I then proceed to chat with the upstairs bartender.
Me: Can I try the Ithaca Pumpkin Ale?
Bartender: DO you just want a sample or a glass?
Me: No, I'll take a pint
Bartender: It's actually a pilsner
To myself (WTF?? no...ok...whatever)
So I go back downstairs with my pumpkin ALE. I know the bartender downstairs will question how I have a beer without her serving it but I play it cool. ****, bartender notices.
Bartender: What did you get?
Me: Ithaca Pumpkin ALE
Bartender: You should have just told me, I would have gotten it for you.
(Me thinking to myself, I would have if you knew which freakin beers each brewery had on tap).
(Check the pic of the menu at this point and you will see it clearly just says Ithaca)
Sorry for the long post
gcdowd said:My first impression was, barrel shipped beer? WTF is that? Do they mean kegged beer? I would find out later that no, they did not.
brussum said:So, what did they mean by barrel shipped beer? Inquiring minds want to know...
drainbamage said:Nonsensical pirate kitsch?
why does everyone that gets butt hurt about people being "rude" to servers always say that we are going to eat spit. If every food server does this then they need to kill there selfs for being a$$ holes. And some how it's still the rude customers fault.
...with that many selections ON TAP you would think it would be more specific.
The management should be held accountable for "knowing their beer", and for training their bartenders and wait staff. When this doesn't happen, the bartenders and waitstaff should take it upon themselves. Either way, a restaurant with that kind of beer selection should "know their beer". If they don't, I have no problem pointing it out and going around them to get my own.
The management should be held accountable for "knowing their beer", and for training their bartenders and wait staff. When this doesn't happen, the bartenders and waitstaff should take it upon themselves. Either way, a restaurant with that kind of beer selection should "know their beer". If they don't, I have no problem pointing it out and going around them to get my own.
I'd bet good money that was El Bait Shop...never been there myself, but the beer menu there is legendary.You'd be surprised though, I've found some incredible beer bars in places that I would have never expected. I was in Des Moines about 2 weeks ago, and it was nothing but BMC on every menu until I found a crazy beer haven in some dark corner of the downtown region with over 200 beers on the menu! Surprised the heck out of me, but there was also about 50 people there on a tuesday night. Craft beer lovers will come out of the woodwork if you have the selection to entice them
dkwolf said:I'd bet good money that was El Bait Shop...never been there myself, but the beer menu there is legendary.
However, there is a big difference between the Des Moines Metro area with a population just shy of 600,000, and Sac City -- there's 10,000 people in the WHOLE COUNTY.
Reminds me of when this kid at work asked me what the penalty was if I got caught homebrewing. He was gobsmacked to learn it was legal.Ugh this thread is getting snooty. Yes this bar doesn't have that selection and the wait staff is dumb. They spit in your food. BMC is crap. I used to hear actually funny things and not just snobbery. That's not funny.
How about the time my barely-English-speaking neighbors wandered over to my brew session and asked in a very timid manner if I was making cocaine or meth?
Ugh this thread is getting snooty. Yes this bar doesn't have that selection and the wait staff is dumb. They spit in your food. BMC is crap. I used to hear actually funny things and not just snobbery. That's not funny.
How about the time my barely-English-speaking neighbors wandered over to my brew session and asked in a very timid manner if I was making cocaine or meth?
There's a little store on the island here. Kinda place you get some gas for your boat and some bait on the way to the launch. I stopped in and saw a line of growlers behind the cashier and asked about them. He said they have beer on tap and handed me a list of some really good beers! This is about 5 minutes from my house. Gonna be taking advantage of this!
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Here's the current list. Not rare stuff and a lot more local microbrews than stuff from around the nation, but still a nice little selection.
Mac & Jacks African Amber
Manny's Pale Ale
Pike Double IPA
Pike Monks Uncle Belgian Trippel
Iron Horse Irish Death
Skookum Olde Tom Belgian IPA
Skookum Choc/Vanilla Porter
Widmer Hefeweizen
Scuttlebutt Blonde
Elysian Men's Room Red
Leavenworth Doppelbock
Angry Orchard Hard Apple Cider
dkwolf said:A new restaurant opened here in town a month or two ago. 4+ months pre-opening, I was talking with the owner, and she said they were planning to have a big craft beer selection. Told her I would be eagerly awaiting their beer list to see what they had. Her response was "Let me know what you want, we'll get it". I just smiled, because I knew she had no idea what she just said. (The a$$hole in me WANTED to say, "Okay, how about Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA and Empyrean Vanilla Porter to start" -- both breweries that do not distribute in Iowa and would be impossible for them to sell) At the time, just told her, "I'll wait and see what you get, and go from there"
Fast forward to the first part of this month. They've been open 3-4 weeks, and I get my first opportunity to go check them out. The beer list? Bud, Bud Light, a couple Shock Top variants, Angry Orchard, and Shiner Bock. Not exactly what I'd call a "big" selection, and calling it "craft" is definitely a stretch. Haven't had the chance yet to have a good discussion with the owner again about her beer list - but I also don't know that it's worth it; knowing the majority of the clientele in town, I don't know if she could move enough stock of a big beer list to make it worth it.
When the opportunity to have that conversation comes up, I plan on it. That opportunity hasn't come up yet.Obviously she doesn't know beer, and was asking for suggestions. Since you know something about it, you could let her know what some of the ones you like and think might sell AND are available in your area. You'd be doing your town a favor and introducing them to new beers.
That is a nice list. Irish death is legendary in my area as "that dark beer, the really strong one." Thankfully it is also delicious and served at my favorite bar in town.
I went to the lhbs today (broke my hydrometer testing tube) and saw a buddy from beer club there. We start talking shop and the conversation turns to this little brewery in Oregon we both visited. I ask if he tried the Belgians they make. He says "oh yeah! I just want to know what Belgian gave them the socks to put in that beer!" It was pretty accurate but the look on his face remembering them was priceless.
Irish death is legendary in my house as "that crap people keep bringing me." I have had several people bring it to me talking about how interesting it is.
I have graciously thanked them for being so thoughtful and promptly dumped it when I get home. IMO one of the worst beers in WA, outside the swill produced on Vashon.
so I ask the waitress, "what is the IPA?"Premium Beer ( 12 oz. bottles, No beer on tap )................................................$5
Stella Artois, Blue Moon, Corona, Corona Light, Heineken, Red Stripe,
Sam Adams, IPA, Mike's Hard Lemonade
roastquake said:"Ipa's are made with more yeast" :smack:
This comment came from someone who worked at a brewpub
"Ipa's are made with more yeast" :smack:
This comment came from someone who worked at a brewpub
I have to jump in and hafl-heartedly defend waitstaff. I spent 9 years in the restaurant and bar biz paying for college and later because I loved the human interaction.
Except for places that feature their beer, you are likely to get the equivalent of what was on the menu when hired Why? Because in 2006 when I last worked in a bar, base rate was $2.13/hour. Training rate was minimum wage ($5.13/hour?) so the establishment wanted you on the floor because it cost them less than half per hour. You wanted on the floor because unless you sucked at your job you earned $9-14 on a sad lunch shift.
So the shop wants you out making money and you want out making money. Unless you are passionate about your beer (we are talking a combination of History Majors, Teachers who realized they could make more waiting tables and college kids who earn today to pay their rent tomorrow), why would this be priority?
That being said, I knew my beer, my wine and my liquor. Why? Because $9-14 hour, even in Tulsa, OK, was not nearly good enough to pay for college in cash and maintain the lifestyle I was accustomed to. Drinkers tip and their overall bill is higher...you do the math.
I had a guest over for dinner with his family at the weekend. Now I don't really know these people but our girls are friends and my girlfriend knows them quite well.
The dad of the family turns up with a carrier bag full of Fosters.
We get talking about beers and I mentioned that I'm not really a lager fan generally and I brew my own, would he like to try one. Here's how the conversation went:
Him: I don't really like bitters, but, sure, I'll try what you've made
Me: Ok, well I only have a saison on the go at the minute anyhow, it's a style of Belgian beer that used to be brewed in farmhouses, so it's not a bitter.
Him: if its not a lager it's a bitter.......
Me: ummm what about stout,s like Guinness for example?
Him: bitter.
Me: or a mild?
Him: bitter.
Me: oh. ( as diplomatically as possible) I'm not sure that's quite right. I'm pretty sure bitter is just one style of many. ( by this time I've poured his saison and hand into him)
Him: no I'm pretty sure you have lagers, bitters and cider. ( tastes it) ah, see this isn't a bitter......it's fizzy, you've made a lager without realising it.
Me: have some falafel.
He went on to drink my saisons all night and when they were leaving I handed him the fosters back, explaining again that lager isn't my thing " funny you don't like it when you can make it! Thanks again!"
Went to bed very confused.
I like what I like as well and know I hate Shocktop and Bluemoon. Just my opinion but they taste terrible.
Someone went to bed confused that night. If it's any consolation, I seriously doubt it was you.
\"AmandaK\" said:From a LHBS employee: \"I hate the way beer smells. It just STINKS up the kitchen!\" She then went on a 3-4 minute spiel about how she doesn\'t enjoy certain aspects of the brew day.
The customers left without buying anything.
It\'s pretty clear to me why this shop is not doing so well.
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