Lil' Sparky said:It's not something that can be told. You must discover it for yourself.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=18679
dude, i am on page four of the thread, and i am laughing my a$$ off... prison wine :cross:
Lil' Sparky said:It's not something that can be told. You must discover it for yourself.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=18679
stale said:WOW!!!!!! All I can say is wow!!! I loved this past 20 minutes reading this debate.
Tahnks everyone for such a good time that only cost me 20 mins.
rabidgerbil said:so after reading some of the thread that led to the creation of EAC, I have to ask, what is RDWSMB? I tried doing a search, and all it returned was the EAC thread.
BlindLemonLars said:Relax, Don't Worry, Save Money Brewing. (Or not.)
kinison_fan said:Around here, a good commercial beer is 30-35 a case (i.e. Victory), and 18-20 for regular everyday beer (Yuengling).
Seems like a lot of Cara-pils, even for 25 gallons. But I digress....5isnotenough said:12.5lbs Cara-pils @ $2/lb - $25
mr x said:I think a better way to look at the situation is:
'What would I be doing today if I wasn't brewing'?
I was supposed to be brewing today, but I busted a coupling and that got put off. So what did I do - went out to Costco and spent $100 on pickled beets and chocolate milk. ANd other stuff I basically didn't need. Would I have bought it anyway, who knows. Probably not half that bill.
So maybe brewing would have saved me money.lol
As far as I am concerned, unless you would, could, and should be getting paid by somebody for doing labour instead of brewing, then you have no loss of wages, so you have no labour costs.
mr x said:I think a better way to look at the situation is:
'What would I be doing today if I wasn't brewing'?
I was supposed to be brewing today, but I busted a coupling and that got put off. So what did I do - went out to Costco and spent $100 on pickled beets and chocolate milk. ANd other stuff I basically didn't need. Would I have bought it anyway, who knows. Probably not half that bill.
So maybe brewing would have saved me money.lol
As far as I am concerned, unless you would, could, and should be getting paid by somebody for doing labour instead of brewing, then you have no loss of wages, so you have no labour costs.
SuperiorBrew said:never heard of either
kinison_fan said:Ouch!
OK caveman, then I never heard of Leinenkugel's
And I just read through 10+ pages since last posting. Somebody owes me $350.00.
iamjonsharp said:Because I am a jerk:
This whole idea of labor cost is ridiculous. Your life is your life, not a business.
Bob has 6 bucks, he wants a pie. He can either go out a buy a pie (6 bucks), or buy the ingredients to make the pie (4 bucks). Making a pie will save him 2 bucks, regardless of how long it takes him to make the pie. Yes the pie has to be heated in the oven and the dishes washed blah blah blah, you can always factor that in, but this is minimal.
Time is not a factor, the whole point is using your time to save your money you so it stays in your pocket. That's why if you are on a fixed budget, need to save money, or whatever, you'll spend more time making meals than going out to eat, etc.
And no, you'll never save money by homebrewing as a hobby...
AZ_Brew_Dude said:I agree that labor shouldn't be factored in. I posted the question yesterday morning before going to work, then checked the responses when I got home. When I saw something like 95 responses I thought there'd be lots of great ideas on ways to save money with certain recipes, or by shopping at certain stores/websites. But probably 80% of it was about the labor cost debate.
I certainly appreciate all the feedback, but I think we got a tad bit off the original topic. Regardless, thanks to all who replied.
I could not agree more.Drunkensatyr said:Not no but F*ck NO......I am buried in equipment and procedural costs..Is it WORTH my time..YES!!!!!!! cheaper...NO
ohiobrewtus said:This all breaks down into something pretty simple, guys - If you brew your own beer to save money, you're doing it for the wrong reasons.
Of course we're always trying to cut costs by doing things like washing yeast, buying grain in bulk, etc., etc. but in the long run, most of us enjoy the brew toys too much to actually end up saving money in the long run. I know I do.
I know what you mean, but you will - just wait. You're already justifying a keggle and corona mill (both not necessary).Ó Flannagáin said:I really don't have any toys that aren't necessary though. My latest purchase in equipment was a keggle, but it was really necessary and only $80. Other than that, I haven't bought anything since I started all grain in February. That was cheap as hell, a cooler, some copper tubing, a chiller and a corona mill.
iamjonsharp said:Because I am a jerk:
This whole idea of labor cost is ridiculous. Your life is your life, not a business.
Bob has 6 bucks, he wants a pie. He can either go out a buy a pie (6 bucks), or buy the ingredients to make the pie (4 bucks). Making a pie will save him 2 bucks, regardless of how long it takes him to make the pie. Yes the pie has to be heated in the oven and the dishes washed blah blah blah, you can always factor that in, but this is minimal.
Time is not a factor, the whole point is using your time to save your money you so it stays in your pocket. That's why if you are on a fixed budget, need to save money, or whatever, you'll spend more time making meals than going out to eat, etc.
And no, you'll never save money by homebrewing as a hobby...
5isnotenough said:Bigger batches will take nearly the same amount of time as small batches.
Buying in bulk will always save money. Look into group buys to maximize this.
Growing hops is, well, almost free.
Yeast can be re-used by several means. You can find many on this sight.
AG will generally cost less than Extract. Sometimes, depending on how you buy, it can be close or the other way around.
Efficiency and time can be sacrificed in exchange to save money on equipment. Or vice-versa.
As far as recipes, any specialty grains add to the cost. LME is cheaper than DME, but a little tougher to store. Higher AA hops will provide more bitterness at less cost. Buying liquid yeast is a big cost addition. The addition of dextrose can increase alcohol content cheaply, but can add cidery characteristics.
Hypothetically:
10lbs Pale 2 Row - $10
1lb Misc Specialty Grains - $2
2.5oz Homegrown Hops - Free
Reuse Yeast from last batch - Free
About $5/case. I'd say, "You REALLY save money buy homebrewing beer!"
olllllo said:The OP has requested that we all move on and earlier I expressed that sentiment. I'm considering spinning this off into a new thread, but that's going to take a bit.
We did one of those a while back, but it might be worth reviving.rabidgerbil said:or maybe, "How much have you spent on brew gear?"
iamjonsharp said:A single batch doesn't seem to last a month anymore, let alone 1 week!
Bobby_M said:Ollllo, why not just close this thread altogether and save it for entertainment later.
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