jerry garcia
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What are peoples opinions on using bleach to sanitize, air dry versus rinsing with sink water.
jerry garcia said:What are peoples opinions on using bleach to sanitize, air dry versus rinsing with sink water.
jerry garcia said:What are peoples opinions on using bleach to sanitize, air dry versus rinsing with sink water.
Cheesefood said:In order:
1. Iodaphor
2. Starsan
3. Bleach
4. Urine.
ScubaSteve said:Why put Iodophor above Star-San?
Are you asking if you should rinse bleach or if it better to rinse and air-dry. Like^^^
said..........ALWAYS rinse bleach. Then rinse. Then rinse. Then rinse. Then buy Starsan.
Bleach has it's place for cleaning up infections or old, moldy bottles, but I personally wouldn't use it as a "no-rinse" sanitizer. I realize Charlie Talley mentioned his "no-rinse" acidified bleach solution, but I don't trust not rinsing. There are just too many accounts of noticeable chlorophenol development in finished products for me to not rinse.
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I've used bleach exclusively and I've never had any problems with the so-called band-aid flavor/aromas. I DO rinse.
Essentially, I fill what I want to sanitize with the proper ratio of bleach:water, soak for about 10 minutes, then drain 90%, refill 1/4-way with water, and dump. At that point I consider it ready to use.
MC
What do you consider the correct ratio of bleach to water?
Clorox Bleach to water ratio for cleaning hard, nonporous food contact surface sanitizing (refrigerators, freezers, plastic cutting boards, stainless cutlery, dishes, glassware, countertops, pots and pans, stainless utensils):
Use 1 tablespoon of Clorox® Regular-Bleach per gallon of water. Wash, wipe or rinse items with detergent and water then apply sanitizing solution. Let stand 2 minutes. Air dry. Kills the following:
Staphylococcus aureus (Staph.)
Escherichia coli 0157:H7 (E. coli)
For hard, nonporous surface disinfection:
Use ¾ cup Clorox Bleach in one gallon of water/10 minute contact time, to kill the following:
Feline parvovirus
Canine parvovirus
Use 1¾ cup Clorox Bleach in one gallon of water/5 minute contact time, to kill the following:
Mycobacterium bovis (Tuberculosis)
What do you consider the correct ratio of bleach to water? The information that's provided on the pack? Use an acidified bleach solution with only 28 mls of bleach in 19 litres of water (use the same amount of vinegar to acidify) and this is a real killer. The bleach doesn't become effective as a sanitiser until the pH drops to about 5. This is no rinse, and it's recommended you don't rinse. You really can't trust the water that comes out of your tap. If you're bleaching and then rinsing, you're pretty much negating the effect of the bleach.
You really can't trust the water that comes out of your tap. If you're bleaching and then rinsing, you're pretty much negating the effect of the bleach.
I love how every time one of these bleach threads is started, someone has to come along defending the honor of bleach while preaching their beliefs and practices.
It seems pretty evident that Darth and Misplaced are simply explaining their current practice and their opinions on the use of bleach. They both feel more comfortable rinsing, end of story. Why does everyone have to have your opinion? They want to rinse, let them rinse. It works for both of them, as each one has explicitly outlined in their posts. If they rinse and it works, why should they change their methods just because you do something different? You also speak of questioning the validity of posts on this forum, yet here you are posting yourself...
I have also used bleach to clean infections and, like the aforementioned, rinsed well with great success (note what I mentioned about rinsing). A nice overnight diluted bleach soak at the 1 - 2 tbsp/1 gal. water ratio works well for cleaning a persistent infection. Just remember to rinse afterwards (ever thought about evaluating your method to prevent infections?), then sanitize as normal.
I sense another speech coming on...
1)Darn. I'll have to go and return the 4 ribbons that I got in homebrew competitions over the last year because my beers were infected.
2) I've just had an idea: I'm going to take some sterile wort (pressure cooked) and add a cup of water straight out of the tap and see how long it takes for anything to grow inside the covered jar.
3) As an FYI, the girl I was recently dating was a chemical process engineer for a pharmaceutical company. They regularly use a bleach solution to kill any bugs, and that's on their stainless steel, no less. [Ok, it's not 304 stainless, it's much more polished].
M_C
From Clorox's web page:
MC
So the inventor or Star san recommends using star san, and not everyday bleach. I wonder where he got his research?
It is like clorox recommending on television a cup to a gallon for sanitation when a capful is more than enough. They want you to use more to buy more.
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