I don't know. You guys must not read many other forums. This is by far the least snarky and most positive forum I read.
I posted this in a different thread but thought I'd start a new one specific to this topic...
Uninformed people talking about beer... Slightly informed guy at a brewfest talking about beer... Equally annoying. It's beer. I wish people could just enjoy it and drink what they like. Being a homebrewer for 8 years, knowledgeable, interested, etc... I almost hate to talk beer with people lately.
There's the guy who means well throwing around buzz words like "sessionable", "balanced", etc. He doesn't actually know a damn thing about the beer. He just knows we should all like it based on whatever nonsense review he read. And he's lecturing people in the bar about why they should like certain things, etc.
I want to correct this guy but I never will. Beer is like the band I used to like but now is popular and on the radio. I will continue to brew, drink, and appreciate beer. I guess I'm just more inclined to do it in private, avoiding all the "beer people" and nonsense all together.
I was in a few home brew clubs when I first started brewing, now that I have moved and rejoined another club only to stop going after awhile because of this this particular subject.
The people were pretty cool but, one particular outspoken person just made it annoying to me. Its like he started taking over the meetings with his agenda. They didn't have elected officers or an agenda meeting minutes. It was bring beer, share beer, talk beer and drink beer. Which is perfect for me up to a point. (I was a member both kinds of beer clubs. The more organized clubs had engineers, IT and scientist-like folks. They had too much business and not enough drinking and general beer talk)
Anyhow, this guy just showed up one day, my guess a friend of friend thing got him invited, seemed to take over. I had been going for 6-8 months then said f-it after this guy came into the picture.
This guy was one brewing maybe 2 years and was now AG-know-it-all. Having a discussion with him was difficult. He was wrong much of the time. I didn't want to be the annoying "know it all", 25% were AG'rs the rest were extracts brewers or noobs.
He wanted the club to brew a bourbon barrel stout. He got a 50 gallon whiskey barrel somewhere then wanted each member to brew 5 gallon batch of stout to add to this big barrel. After several meetings of this discussion I decided it wasn't for me.
I like brewing what I like to drink. While I like bourbon barrel stouts a bottle here a bottle there, not 5 gallons, much less make it a monthly club communion with 50 gallons.
I like the beer geek vs beer snob classification of beer enthusiasts.
to tell the truth I think people in general are annoying
I hate people. people are aholes and I hate aholes.
guess a career in customer service wasn't such a wise choice, but here I am
The one thing that drives me nuts though is the odd time when I'll be pouring a can into a glass and one of my buddies will be standing there with a Bud Light in his hand going "man, what gay ass crap are you drinking now?" or something to that effect. At that point I have no qualms about letting that person know what I think about their beer of choice.
It's all good as long as no one uses the word "quaffer". That's just not necessary.
... how will people know you're awesome unless you tell them?
Eh, there's jerks everywhere and in every group. The holier-than-thou attitude some beer folks exude is just the way they are and they'd do that with whatever they're into at the time.
Plenty of homebrewers who think they're superior to non-homebrewer beer drinkers, too
None of the people in my main social circle are that into craft beer, much less homebrew, so I'm planning to check out my local club's meeting in a couple weeks. I'm bracing myself for the possibility of there being one or two of "that guy" who's a know-it-all and judgemental prick. I assume the risk comes with the territory.
9/10ths of the reviews I read on BA make me roll my eyes back into my head.
They all seem to be copying the writing styles and language of the handful of actual cicerones who post reviews there, and apeing it to appear smart.
I'm the first person to tell you that my palate is not terribly refined in terms of picking out individual flavors, and that I'm much better at recognizing good beer than being revolted by sub-par beer. While it's a limitation I have as a brewer, at the very least I can take solace that it's preventing me from snobbing out on what others brew.
Wow, I was going to say pretty much the same thing--and you did.
I'm not a "super taster;" far from it. Certain flavors are lost on me, so I don't assume anything about a particular beer. I just know what I like, and I don't need to convince anybody else that "I'm right!"
Like you, there are few in my social circle who like good craft beer--they're BMC guys almost exclusively with the exception of one who might drink Spotted Cow (a beer I do not care for--but that doesn't mean other people can't like it). There are several in my family who *do* like Spotted Cow, so I'll probably try to brew a clone at some point.
But that said, the only guy I feel obligated to please with my brewing is...me.
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