agree with all. a few years back I picked up a couple for 20 each. about a year ago i ordered 4 online for little over 25 each shipped. Now it seems 50 (or more) is standard for one at the LHS. with 7 kegs in the garage i can't bring myself to pay what they want these days for another one... Maybe if I ever have them all filled at once I will rethink that but right now, I can't do it.