slarkin712
Well-Known Member
I have come across a few articles that describe a mashing technique that produces a higher level of glucose. This is used by Germans in wheat beers to produce a prominent banana character. Here's a link to a preview of one such article on this mash type:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/78556575/Wheat-Beers-Michae-Eder
I do not wish to go through any complex mash schedules or decoction. I always just use single step mash. I would like to get more banana flavor in my German weizens. I have tried a number of variables such as fermentation temperature, yeast pitching rate, oxygenation rate, and grist makeup. Some of these have yielded a bit more banana, but not as much as I had hoped for.
Given the hypothesis in these articles that a wort richer in glucose(actually has something to do with the ratio of glucose to maltose) would yield higher levels of banana flavor, I would think I could just add some glucose to my normal wort and expect more banana. Anyone ever try this?
First, there are a few source of glucose that I am aware of that are readily available - dextrose, honey, and invert sugar. I wonder if those have the correct conformation of glucose, as glucose is an isomer with an L and D form. D is the form known as dextrose. Would a mash as described is the article produce the D or L form, or does it even matter? My guess is that it produces the D form, which is the form that is metabolized by humans.
Second, how much glucose to add? If I had the time and resources I would turn this into a Brulosopher inspired exBeeriment with increasing amounts of glucose added to separate batches. To start, I think I'll add somewhere between one half to one pound of honey to a 5 gallon batch and see what happens. Sound like a good idea? Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks,
Sean
http://www.scribd.com/doc/78556575/Wheat-Beers-Michae-Eder
I do not wish to go through any complex mash schedules or decoction. I always just use single step mash. I would like to get more banana flavor in my German weizens. I have tried a number of variables such as fermentation temperature, yeast pitching rate, oxygenation rate, and grist makeup. Some of these have yielded a bit more banana, but not as much as I had hoped for.
Given the hypothesis in these articles that a wort richer in glucose(actually has something to do with the ratio of glucose to maltose) would yield higher levels of banana flavor, I would think I could just add some glucose to my normal wort and expect more banana. Anyone ever try this?
First, there are a few source of glucose that I am aware of that are readily available - dextrose, honey, and invert sugar. I wonder if those have the correct conformation of glucose, as glucose is an isomer with an L and D form. D is the form known as dextrose. Would a mash as described is the article produce the D or L form, or does it even matter? My guess is that it produces the D form, which is the form that is metabolized by humans.
Second, how much glucose to add? If I had the time and resources I would turn this into a Brulosopher inspired exBeeriment with increasing amounts of glucose added to separate batches. To start, I think I'll add somewhere between one half to one pound of honey to a 5 gallon batch and see what happens. Sound like a good idea? Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks,
Sean