NuclearRich
Well-Known Member
Before each use on brewday, do you clean the tarnished looking oxidized layer off from a copper immersion chiller?
A little back story:
So I have had a few brews lately with a little metallic taste. Its not horrible, but its noticable. I have been scouring the interwebz for sources. It is pretty non-descript. Where a vinegar smell in your brew is a dead ringer for acetobacter infection, metallic taste "may be" related to a non-stainless piece of equipment, or "could be" related to an infection. I havent found much sound and solid information. If anyone has some, please share.
Anyway, on my quest for the source of this taste, I began to question my copper immersion chiller. I have seen mixed opinions on the frequency of cleaning a copper IC: some folks just do an initial cleaning to remove factory oils and such, while others will give vinegar or star-san baths before every use to remove the dull oxidation, and definitely if there is any green verdigris which is potentially toxic.
In my own experience, I dont typically clean the copper before use. It gets washed after brewing, so there is no funk. I don't get verdigris. Theoretically, the 10-15min end of boil insertion will sterilize it. I have noticed, however, that after insertion there is a sheen that is almost oily looking once the copper goes in. After chilling is done, the copper is shiny so clearly the oxidized layer is in the wort. This is where I have confusion. I have heard that it "may" be a yeast nutrient. But don't you think that it "may" contribute to a metallic taste?
A little back story:
So I have had a few brews lately with a little metallic taste. Its not horrible, but its noticable. I have been scouring the interwebz for sources. It is pretty non-descript. Where a vinegar smell in your brew is a dead ringer for acetobacter infection, metallic taste "may be" related to a non-stainless piece of equipment, or "could be" related to an infection. I havent found much sound and solid information. If anyone has some, please share.
Anyway, on my quest for the source of this taste, I began to question my copper immersion chiller. I have seen mixed opinions on the frequency of cleaning a copper IC: some folks just do an initial cleaning to remove factory oils and such, while others will give vinegar or star-san baths before every use to remove the dull oxidation, and definitely if there is any green verdigris which is potentially toxic.
In my own experience, I dont typically clean the copper before use. It gets washed after brewing, so there is no funk. I don't get verdigris. Theoretically, the 10-15min end of boil insertion will sterilize it. I have noticed, however, that after insertion there is a sheen that is almost oily looking once the copper goes in. After chilling is done, the copper is shiny so clearly the oxidized layer is in the wort. This is where I have confusion. I have heard that it "may" be a yeast nutrient. But don't you think that it "may" contribute to a metallic taste?