If anyone has some insight or had similar issues, please let me know!
I brewed a blonde ale, kegged and immediately bottle about a dozen for a friend(bottle conditioned).
Force carbed the keg and after a week or so tasted it. Initially thoughts were: Wierd esters and fusel alcohols... not clean at all (I didn't make a yeast starter after all) 1 pk Imperial yeast about 2-3 months old.
Still ..would drink a few pints over the next couple weeks.. then opened one of the bottle conditioned ones.. no off favour!
Next beer I made a hazy pale ale, kegged up, great beer, no off flavours, success! (made a yeast starter)
Next beer: Italian pilsner.. made a yeast Starter with escarpment labs Isar yeast (yes I had proper pitching rate, using recommended lager pitch rate, fermented in temp controlled chest freezer)
After six weeks, kegged up and... same fusel alcohol, estery, harsh bitterness..
So.. I gather it's not fusel alcohol from an underpitched wort like I had thought for the blonde ale.. the only thing I can think of is excess pbw? However I'm always super careful and hot rinse anything after a wash like.. 4 to 6 times because I don't want any pbw in my beer!
From the flavours described does anyone know what this is? I really don't want to brew another batch just to have this same probably (especially a 6 week lager!)
Details:
All Grain
10 Gal Ss brewtech kettle
Mash king plastic mash tun
Immersion wort chiller (copper)
Glass carboy fermenter
R O water treated with 2g ca cl, 4g gypsum, 4ml lactic acid
Mash temp 149
Worth mentioning:
All my beer consistently comes out dryer than expected (82% attenuation roughly)
The Italian pilsner came in at 1.0000 FG!!
I brewed a blonde ale, kegged and immediately bottle about a dozen for a friend(bottle conditioned).
Force carbed the keg and after a week or so tasted it. Initially thoughts were: Wierd esters and fusel alcohols... not clean at all (I didn't make a yeast starter after all) 1 pk Imperial yeast about 2-3 months old.
Still ..would drink a few pints over the next couple weeks.. then opened one of the bottle conditioned ones.. no off favour!
Next beer I made a hazy pale ale, kegged up, great beer, no off flavours, success! (made a yeast starter)
Next beer: Italian pilsner.. made a yeast Starter with escarpment labs Isar yeast (yes I had proper pitching rate, using recommended lager pitch rate, fermented in temp controlled chest freezer)
After six weeks, kegged up and... same fusel alcohol, estery, harsh bitterness..
So.. I gather it's not fusel alcohol from an underpitched wort like I had thought for the blonde ale.. the only thing I can think of is excess pbw? However I'm always super careful and hot rinse anything after a wash like.. 4 to 6 times because I don't want any pbw in my beer!
From the flavours described does anyone know what this is? I really don't want to brew another batch just to have this same probably (especially a 6 week lager!)
Details:
All Grain
10 Gal Ss brewtech kettle
Mash king plastic mash tun
Immersion wort chiller (copper)
Glass carboy fermenter
R O water treated with 2g ca cl, 4g gypsum, 4ml lactic acid
Mash temp 149
Worth mentioning:
All my beer consistently comes out dryer than expected (82% attenuation roughly)
The Italian pilsner came in at 1.0000 FG!!