jonnyp1980
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Thought I'd share but I was invited to try last years batch of probably best RIS out there. Kate the great. I know know why it is considered one of the best in the world. Cheers.
Teromous said:Err who said it was one of the best in the world? Not busting your balls or anything; I'm legitimately curious. Always on the look out for great beers, but I don't think I've heard of this one before.
Yeah I see it on BA as having 100 BA score and 100 Bros score, with 811 votes and isn't even brewed anymore. Old Rasputin only has 96 and 97 but has 6,992 reviews and is still in production. To me having a score of world class doesn't mean it's one of the best in the world.
Teromous said:Yeah I see it on BA as having 100 BA score and 100 Bros score, with 811 votes and isn't even brewed anymore. Old Rasputin only has 96 and 97 but has 6,992 reviews and is still in production. To me having a score of world class doesn't mean it's one of the best in the world.
Yeah I see it on BA as having 100 BA score and 100 Bros score, with 811 votes and isn't even brewed anymore. Old Rasputin only has 96 and 97 but has 6,992 reviews and is still in production. To me having a score of world class doesn't mean it's one of the best in the world.
Especially if it takes an act of God to score a bottle......
...I would think being scored "world class" means exactly that it's one of the best beers in the world...
Teromous said:Not really, if I get 10 of my friends or 100 locals to rate my beer solid 5's on BA just to boost my rAvg. For example, this world class RIS that has been rated by...21 people...and doesn't even have a photo. Not completely reputable in my opinion. It sounds like the brewery took a loss when the brewer left. Do you know what the name of the new brewery will be called? I'd like to check it out when it opens up.
Not really, if I get 10 of my friends or 100 locals to rate my beer solid 5's on BA just to boost my rAvg. For example, this world class RIS that has been rated by...21 people...and doesn't even have a photo. Not completely reputable in my opinion.
It sounds like the brewery took a loss when the brewer left. Do you know what the name of the new brewery will be called? I'd like to check it out when it opens up.
Anyway, this is all ot, as op didn't make this thread to argue what world class means.
100% not relevant. The world class score is exactly that, a designation as a world class beer. You can dispute the opinion of the judges, but it's availability has absolutely nothing to do with it's merit per the bjcp standards.
BJCP standards have nothing to do with BA ratings. Take a look at the top rated beers on BA and you'll see that availability factors pretty heavily in scoring, on the other hand. Not saying this one isn't amazing, I've never had it and likely never will, given the rarity. I'm just saying, people tend to inflate their scores on rare and low production beers, whether they consciously intend to or not.
No, they are the gold standard in judging beer though, but my post was 100% accurate without me invoking them. So leave that part out. I'm still right.
In fact, edited.
Haters around here just hating. Let someone enjoy their damn beer.
I've never had the beer either, but you know every single one of you is curious. Looks beautiful, and delicious OP. F#$k the haters.
Oh, and I'm not hating. I'm just saying BA scores are not the definitive answer on a beer.
BJCP standards have nothing to do with BA ratings. Take a look at the top rated beers on BA and you'll see that availability factors pretty heavily in scoring, on the other hand. Not saying this one isn't amazing, I've never had it and likely never will, given the rarity. I'm just saying, people tend to inflate their scores on rare and low production beers, whether they consciously intend to or not.
Sorry to cause a debate. Although I do like a good debate now and again. Perhaps I should have left out that it was considered a world class beer. I thought it was from my half assed research through out the years this beer has been around. But in any case I'm glad it sparked some interest. Cheers.
jbaysurfer said:You have no apologies to make. This place is always gonna be this way. It really doesn't matter how carefully you craft every word of a post, somebody is gonna get their panties in a twist. I've never had the beer, but the picture makes it look DELICIOUS! Stoked for you.
broadbill said:It always amazes me when somebody posts to a discussion forum and they are surprised that their post causes a discussion. What did you expect to happen? What did you want to happen?
Posh said:All of you wondering could just try to make it yourself.... https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/official-kate-great-russian-imperial-stout-clone-217674/
All of you wondering could just try to make it yourself....
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/official-kate-great-russian-imperial-stout-clone-217674/
ab12 said:In regards to Tod Mott's new brewery and KTG. Tod kept the recipe but not the name, it will be called something else. The new brewery will be called Tributary Brewing, and looks like it will be in Kittery, ME. The brewery space and equipment will be shared with a local wine maker (no idea what his name is or what his winery will be called). Supposedly opening sometime in 2014. Don't know how often the former KTG will be brewed, but one story in a local paper said it will be one of three or four flagship beers. Don't know about how hush he is being either. I've read several articles in local papers about this.
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