Honey Rye

[KayaBrew]

Can someone please look over this recipe I came up with for a Honey Rye? I've never brewed one like this before.

Valley Road Summer Ale
6-D American Wheat or Rye Beer
Author: Marc L

Size: 5.25 gal
Efficiency: 75.0%
Attenuation: 75.0%
Calories: 166.27 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.050 (1.040 - 1.055)
Terminal Gravity: 1.013 (1.008 - 1.013)
Color: 5.97 (3.0 - 6.0)
Alcohol: 4.91% (4.0% - 5.5%)
Bitterness: 24.8 (15.0 - 30.0)

Ingredients:
2.5 lb Pale Wheat Malt
1.5 lb Rye Malt
3 lb Vienna Malt
.5 lb Honey Malt
1.5 lb Wheat Flakes
1 tsp Ferm-Cap S - added during boil, boiled 60 min
.5 oz Cascade (5.4%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
.5 oz Cascade (5.4%) - added during boil, boiled 15 min
.5 oz Centennial (8.7%) - added during boil, boiled 15 min
1 ea Whirlfloc Tablets (Irish moss) - added during boil, boiled 15 min
.5 oz Centennial (8.7%) - added during boil, boiled 5 min
1 lb Honey
11 g Fermentis US-05 Safale US-05

Schedule:
Ambient Air: 70.0 °F
Source Water: 60.0 °F
Elevation: 0.0 m


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[Adam78K]

I like the overall recipe going on. That rye will add a nice dry spicy flavor to it also the vienna malt should lighten the body up. I would suggest doing a low mash temp around 150-153 F for 90 mins to add to that dry crisp taste. As far as hops, me personally I like Centennial towards the bittering end at 60 and cascade for flavor. Try to do some first wort hopping with cascade on Centennial for some good flavor.

 

[KayaBrew]

Great! Thanks for the input.

 

[BeerWomb]

Can somebody adjust this to a "Partial-Mash" brew? I am still learning how to brew with grains but I would definitely love to try this.

 

[944play]

1 tsp Ferm-Cap S - added during boil, boiled 60 min

Whoa, there. Five drops is plenty!

 

[KayaBrew]

Whoa, there. Five drops is plenty!

Don't worry about it. That's just how I entered it into BeerTools. Besides, the bottle says 2 drops per gallon, which is at least 12 drops.

 

[Bartman]

I'd throw some rice hulls in there, that rye is pretty sticky. My first and only stuck mash was a rye IPA. The recipe looks good. I just finished bottling my second RyIPA and it is dry and spicey just like Adam says.

 

[defenestrate]

Depending on your mash temp u will probably finish lower especially with the honey addition. I would also drop the wheat.

 

[BeerWomb]

I have a burner, and a bottling bucket. I planned on getting a 24x24 grain bag in the bottling bucket. Put all the grains in that bucket. I would heat up 1.25 or 2 gallon of 170 F water to dump in the bottling bucket. Stir occasionally, while I heat up another 2 gallon of 175 F water. After I have been mashing for 20 min. I would take a cup of the 175 F water to pour over the mash until the 2 gallon is empty. Then I ll transfer the goodness to my main brewpot to finish this Honey Rye recipe.

Is this possible? Is all of those grain already cracked? I don't have a milling stuff to prepare those grains so I am hoping it is ready to mash straight out of the bag.

P.S.

KayaBrew, if I figure out how to brew this recipe, would you be willing to trade bottles to see how close/far our batch ended up?

 

[KayaBrew]

I have a burner, and a bottling bucket. I planned on getting a 24x24 grain bag in the bottling bucket. Put all the grains in that bucket. I would heat up 1.25 or 2 gallon of 170 F water to dump in the bottling bucket. Stir occasionally, while I heat up another 2 gallon of 175 F water. After I have been mashing for 20 min. I would take a cup of the 175 F water to pour over the mash until the 2 gallon is empty. Then I ll transfer the goodness to my main brewpot to finish this Honey Rye recipe.

Is this possible? Is all of those grain already cracked? I don't have a milling stuff to prepare those grains so I am hoping it is ready to mash straight out of the bag.

P.S.

KayaBrew, if I figure out how to brew this recipe, would you be willing to trade bottles to see how close/far our batch ended up?

Yes, I'd love a trade. I just ordered my ingredients today from BMW. The only thing I'm doing differently than in the recipe above is to use a half a pound of rice hulls. I'll PM you on brew day.

 

[BeerWomb]

Awesome. When are you planning on brewing? I won't be able to brew again in like 1 week or so. I probably will order the stuff from Midwest Supplies this upcoming week.

Oh, do you mind if I substitute your Dry Yeast for Wyeast 1272 "American Ale II". I just like the overall characteristic description of the strain. I been wanting to try that kind too.

The link is http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_yeaststrain_detail.cfm?ID=11

 

[KayaBrew]

I had my first bottle of this tonight. It is exactly what I was shooting for. Dry, crisp, a bit citrusy, a bit spicy and damn refreshing. I ended up hitting 85% eff., and my FG was much lower than expected at 1.008. I mashed it at 150F for 75 minute. I will be brewing another 5 gallons of this over the weekend. Here's the beta:

Valley Road Summer Ale
6-D American Wheat or Rye Beer
Author: Marc L
Date: 6/12/10

Size: 5.5 gal
Efficiency: 84.38%
Attenuation: 84.8%
Calories: 173.52 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.053 (1.040 - 1.055)
Terminal Gravity: 1.008 (1.008 - 1.013)
Color: 5.7 (3.0 - 6.0)
Alcohol: 5.89% (4.0% - 5.5%)
Bitterness: 22.2 (15.0 - 30.0)

Ingredients:
2.5 lb Pale Wheat Malt
1.5 lb Rye Malt
3 lb Vienna Malt
.5 lb Honey Malt
1.5 lb Wheat Flakes
.5 lb Rice Hulls
1 tsp Ferm-Cap S - added during boil, boiled 60 min
14.17 g Centennial (8.7%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
28.35 g Cascade (5.4%) - added during boil, boiled 10 min
1 ea Whirlfloc Tablets (Irish moss) - added during boil, boiled 10 min
1 lb Honey
14.17 g Cascade (5.4%) - added during boil, boiled 0 min
11 g Fermentis US-05 Safale US-05

Schedule:
Ambient Air: 70.0 °F
Source Water: 60.0 °F
Elevation: 0.0 m

00:05:00 Mash in - Liquor: 4.25 gal; Strike: 165.9 °F; Target: 150 °F
01:20:00 Rest - Rest: 75 min; Final: 147.2 °F
01:20:00 Sparge - first runnings: 0.0 gal sparge @ 168.0 °F, 0.0 min; Sparge #1: 3.82 gal sparge @ 190.0 °F, 0.0 min; Total Runoff: 6.78 gal

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