help with this red warrior PA

[davis119]

hey i want a "red eyed warrior " pale ale ....
but i dont have a clue what im doing so im winging it
will that c120 give me a nice red color ? idk if my LHBS has cara red


11# pale 2 row
1# caramel120
.5#crystal 10
.5#vienna
.25#cara pils

1oz warrior @ 60
.25warrior @ 40
.25 warrior @ 20
.25 glaicer @ 1
.25 warrior @ 1
Dry hop .25 warrior .25 cascade

nottingham?

 

[jlpred55]

That is a lot of carmel 120. And at that rate is going to be more brown. Try a pound of med crystal like 50-60L, I like british crystals and then 2-3 oz of finely crush Carafa III. You can stir it in a few minutes before sparging to get a nice red color without too much flvor Something like this:

11# Pale Malt
1# Crystal 50-60L
.5# Crystal 10L
then 2-3 oz Carafa III

You don't need the .5# of vienna, it will get lost in that recipe and is a waste, you also don't need the carapils. It will only add more body to an already highly crystal beer. The rest looks pretty damn good. I use almost the same grainbill all the time for anything red, Irish or American Amber, red IPA etc and it works brilliantly for a deep red color.

BTW Carared does not make your beer red. It is like a 20L crystal malt, which would not make it red. I;ve used it a number of times and I can concur. Weyermann is lying to people saying that nonsense.

 

[davis119]

great thanks

i only threw in the cara plis and vienna
because i have exactly that much sitting in the basement.....
what is carafa 3 ? and is there any substitutions >?

 

[jlpred55]

Carafa 3 is a dehusked roasted malt. You can use black malt or roasted barley as well. Again add a few minutes prior to sparging for color. Good luck

 

[davis119]

thanks idk if the LHBS will have it but ill go with the roasted barley if they dont

the hop additions look ok?
im just using what i have in the freezer.....

i also have about .25ea of cluster and liberty
should i throw them in some where ?

 

[jlpred55]

Depends what you want out of the hops. You want balanced, bitter, hop flavor, what?

 

[davis119]

id say ballanced. i dont want it overly bitter (warrior 17.5%aa)
i want to taste and have nice aroma thats why i wante to dry hop with what little cascade i have left

 

[jlpred55]

Ok then I'd move the .25 warrior to 10 minutes or dry hop. You can dry hop with the liberty too, it's nice. The cluster is out! Lol!

 

[jlpred55]

That's the .25 of warrior at 40 minutes to 10 minutes or dry hop, to clarify.

 

[davis119]

ok will i get enought bittering with the oz of warrrior @60 or should i add somthing else to bitter with ?
whats is so out about the cluster ? i kinda like the smell of them .... i think its actually less than a 1/4 any way

 

[jlpred55]

Put the recipe into a calculator like hopville.com and that will tell you the IBU. I'd say you need at least 35-40 to balance the rest is filled in the last 10 minutes to 0 and dryhop. Will get you balance, flavor and aroma.

 

[jlpred55]

I don't mind cluster but how many different hops profiles you want mix is up to you. I find it gets muddled when you use many different hops in small amounts. You can dryhop with it if you want to b

 

[davis119]

thanks for all the help.... when do you want to brew it for me since you wrothe the recipie

 

[jlpred55]

Haha. You are welcome. Let me know how it comes out. I've got a bitter and a smoke ale to brew this weekend! Plus to me at least brewing it is the best part!