Rivenin
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Just throwing this out there for everyone so they're aware. The infamous cheap concord kettles that are found around ebay, amazon, etc. Listed as 304 or 18/8-10 stainless.
They're some sort of unknown alloy.
Background on how i got this...
I work in a very large dental manufacturing company and spoke with one of our metals engineering people to see if they could weld one of my concord pots as they weld stainless on a regular basis for the dental world.
Gave him one of my older smaller concord kettles to weld on and play around with and practice on before he went to my large one... which i'm glad I did. He was having a hard time with just welding 2 pieces together, so he had our metallurgist guy run a certificate of validation on a piece of the metal twice and this is what he came up with. Attached the verification to my google drive which should work for everyone, if not, let me know.
C = Concord
201 = 201 stainless
301 = 301 stainless
below are the percentages of the concord based on what it's supposed to be
Concord ----- 201 ------- 301
FE --- 73
NI - 1.1 --- 3.5/5.5 --- 6.0/8.0
MN - 10 -----5.5/7.5 -- 2
CR - 13 ----- 16/18 ----16/18
although it's closest to 201 which is safe and i will continue to use mine for now. Just wanted people to be aware
this is what 201 is safe for BTW
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Typical Applications
Appliances, utensils and cutlery; restaurant; institutional and household furnishings such as pots, pans, flatware, counters, splash shields, sinks, dishwasher components, oven parts
Automotive trim, moldings, wiper arms, fastener parts
Architectural and construction hardware, hinges, doors, frames, roll formed sections
Food processing and handling, milk and dairy products, beer, wine, beverages, conveyors
Transportation, rapid transit cars, buses, aircraft, cargo containers
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzc821FkFkjhaFotbUlUZEpnV0k/view?usp=sharing
Type of---%Nickel----%Chromiium %Carbon %Manganese %Silicon % Nitrogen Corrosion Melting Youngs Moduluis
Steel mpy (1) Range x10^6 PSI
201------3.5 - 5.5-----16.0---18.0---0.15 max-----5.5 - 7.5-----1.0 max----0.25 max---------20-----2550 - 2650----28.0
301------6.0 - 8.0 -----16.0---18.0---0.15 max-----2.0 max-----1.0 max-----0------------------12 ----2550 - 2590-----28.0
302------8.0 - 10.0----17.0---19.0---0.15 max-----2.0 max-----1.0 max-----0-------------10 - 18----2550 - 2590-----28.0
304------8.0 - 10.5----18.0---20.0---0.08 max-----2.0 max-----1.0 max-----0--------------6 - 12 ----2550 - 2650-----28.0
309------19.0 - 22.0---24.0---26.0---0.2 max------2.0 max-----1.0 max-----0---------------5 - 9-----2550 - 2650-----29.0
They're some sort of unknown alloy.
Background on how i got this...
I work in a very large dental manufacturing company and spoke with one of our metals engineering people to see if they could weld one of my concord pots as they weld stainless on a regular basis for the dental world.
Gave him one of my older smaller concord kettles to weld on and play around with and practice on before he went to my large one... which i'm glad I did. He was having a hard time with just welding 2 pieces together, so he had our metallurgist guy run a certificate of validation on a piece of the metal twice and this is what he came up with. Attached the verification to my google drive which should work for everyone, if not, let me know.
C = Concord
201 = 201 stainless
301 = 301 stainless
below are the percentages of the concord based on what it's supposed to be
Concord ----- 201 ------- 301
FE --- 73
NI - 1.1 --- 3.5/5.5 --- 6.0/8.0
MN - 10 -----5.5/7.5 -- 2
CR - 13 ----- 16/18 ----16/18
although it's closest to 201 which is safe and i will continue to use mine for now. Just wanted people to be aware
this is what 201 is safe for BTW
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Typical Applications
Appliances, utensils and cutlery; restaurant; institutional and household furnishings such as pots, pans, flatware, counters, splash shields, sinks, dishwasher components, oven parts
Automotive trim, moldings, wiper arms, fastener parts
Architectural and construction hardware, hinges, doors, frames, roll formed sections
Food processing and handling, milk and dairy products, beer, wine, beverages, conveyors
Transportation, rapid transit cars, buses, aircraft, cargo containers
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzc821FkFkjhaFotbUlUZEpnV0k/view?usp=sharing
Type of---%Nickel----%Chromiium %Carbon %Manganese %Silicon % Nitrogen Corrosion Melting Youngs Moduluis
Steel mpy (1) Range x10^6 PSI
201------3.5 - 5.5-----16.0---18.0---0.15 max-----5.5 - 7.5-----1.0 max----0.25 max---------20-----2550 - 2650----28.0
301------6.0 - 8.0 -----16.0---18.0---0.15 max-----2.0 max-----1.0 max-----0------------------12 ----2550 - 2590-----28.0
302------8.0 - 10.0----17.0---19.0---0.15 max-----2.0 max-----1.0 max-----0-------------10 - 18----2550 - 2590-----28.0
304------8.0 - 10.5----18.0---20.0---0.08 max-----2.0 max-----1.0 max-----0--------------6 - 12 ----2550 - 2650-----28.0
309------19.0 - 22.0---24.0---26.0---0.2 max------2.0 max-----1.0 max-----0---------------5 - 9-----2550 - 2650-----29.0