flars
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Sensationalist reporting from the bilge to avoid.
Screw these idiots, I still like Newcastle Brown Ale.... And I can't believe Guinness is on there.....But I drink enough to kill a small horse anyway, and that article is more suited for health nuts.
The article makes one point that I think is paramount in this discussion; after 20 some years of GMO's being ingested,there's no empirical proof that they cause any harm in humans or animals up to this point. Not that it couldn't,possibly. But that they haven't so far. Yet another case of fear mongering. People fear what they don't understand.
Just to be clear, it is crushing debt that is believed to be driving the suicide rate, not GMO crops. Expense and performance of GMO crops are a big factor in the debt load, but let's not mistake the causative factor (debt) with the correlated factor (GMO).
Also, that article spoke about Bt cotton, not eggplant, or did I miss something?
The crushing debt incurred when the GMO technology they were sold on and never panned out. One could draw the conclusion that if they planted heirloom cotton and eggplant varietals, the debt would be less crushing, if any weight at all.
Cotton and eggplant are two of the biggest GMO failures in India, and there are currently over 70 different GMO crops grown there. The Indian government sued Monsanto some years back, and there's a current lawsuit 5.5 million Indian farmers taking on Monsanto:
http://naturalsociety.com/5-million-farmers-sue-monsanto-for-7-billion/
Just as a side note, I am not a GMO hater.. But I am extremely skeptical of a technology that was rushed through the US government, which is filled with Monsanto and Monsanto-affiliated employees (and lobbied to the tune of tens of millions every year), without any long-term studies done to empirically prove the healthfulness of the technology. Should that ever happen I will reconsider my stance, but until then I'll keep eating and drinking the way I do.
this person took the time to talk to people in the brewing industry and pretty much debunk the entire article
http://maureenogle.com/maureen-ogle/2013/08/18/whats-in-your-beer-or-the-dangers-of-dumbassery
http://blog.timesunion.com/beer/debunking-8-beers-that-you-should-stop-drinking-immediately/2425/
Another post to debunk this crap.
I didn't bother to read through everyone's comments so I'm sure its been mentioned but since when is corn a standard ingredient in beer? I'm pretty sure Budweiser is water, barley, hops, rice, and yeast.
A lot of beers use corn. It's very common in American lagers in particular.
I didn't bother to read through everyone's comments so I'm sure its been mentioned but since when is corn a standard ingredient in beer? I'm pretty sure Budweiser is water, barley, hops, rice, and yeast.
Like pointed out terrible article in relation to accuracy and facts.
Really, you don't know how common corn is in brewing?
Corn is used in macro, micro AND homebrewing. Anyone ever brewed a cream ale? Or bottled with priming (CORN) sugar?
Corn sugar yes I'm very aware of how often it is used. But the article reads as if whole kernels of corn are used in some cases and references corn sugar specifically at other points.
When I read the corn portion like I said I was thinking whole kernel corn. So I guess you can call me stupid or whatever else you would like but I've never read a recipe that calls for corn is that way. But then again cream ales and lagers aren't anything I've ever been inclined to make so I've never looked at a recipe.
I'll insert foot in mouth now.
Yeah,I know they use flaked rice & corn in some recipes. The Native Americans make Tizwin by malting corn & drying it in the sun. Then boil it down & put it in a barrel to ferment. I just haven't gone beyond dextrose myself.
Corn sugar yes I'm very aware of how often it is used. But the article reads as if whole kernels of corn are used in some cases and references corn sugar specifically at other points.
When I read the corn portion like I said I was thinking whole kernel corn. So I guess you can call me stupid or whatever else you would like but I've never read a recipe that calls for corn is that way. But then again cream ales and lagers aren't anything I've ever been inclined to make so I've never looked at a recipe.
I'll insert foot in mouth now.
In Central and South America it was traditional to convert the starches in corn with salivary amylase. Like from your mouth.
"So how does it taste?"
"Well, it varies from person to person..."
Not sure I could get past drinkin' someone else's spit?!...
So what's wrong w/any GMO'S????
But since I make my own beer AG My beer is SAFE!
So what's wrong w/any GMO'S????
But since I make my own beer AG My beer is SAFE!
have the NON-GMO food labelled as such, if ORGANIC doesn't already cover it
problem solved
yes, I'm sure designing new labels and packaging is FREE
like FREE health care, nobody has to pay for it!
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