2x1500 w e brew system help

[Madmannvan]

I want to have my hlt with 2 1500 watt elements controlled by a pid same as this diagram, except with 1500 watt elements not 2000watt ones. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1447353985.980351.jpg
But I also want to have a three way switch on both elements so I can flip to my boil kettle with 2 1500 watt elements but control it with a scr dial controller. Like this one. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1447354150.136976.jpg it is a 4000watt 50-220v controller.

My questions are can I run both elements threw this one dial or will I need two?

Do I need to control the element ssr with the dial or can I just put it in line on the power same as a switch?

I know next to nothing about electrical and could use any help you guys can give.

Cheers

 

[poptarts]

why a pid and a pwm, pid should have pwm built in. and you should be able to wire ssr in series to be able to control both circuits with one pwm or one pid.

 

[Madmannvan]

I have 2 120v 15A circuits to run the elements. I didn't think I'd be able to power both elements off one circuit with out tripping it.
I want the scr/pwm so I can have dial control over the boil kettle.

I want the pid for controlling my hlt/mash temp.

 

[Brumateur]

You will need two SCRs to control two heaters. You can use dual potentiometer to control both SCRs by one dial, Like this one -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WTH118-6mm-...-2W-Linear-Carbon-Potentiometer-/231450482472

 

[Madmannvan]

I thought because this scr is for 240v and has 2 in ports and 2 out I could run 2 120v in and 2 120v out.

 

[Brumateur]

Unfortunately it's not like a double pole switch. One line just go through directly.

 

[Madmannvan]

Ok thanks for the help. I'll have to run 2 then

 

[Madmannvan]

Now would I use a ssr and the scr together or is there no need for the ssr?

 

[GreenMonti]

For the boil,
Is it possible to just run one element full power and just use the dial on the other element to just give the added power needed?

 

[Bobby_M]

If you just select a PID that has a manual mode such as the mypin TD4, you don't need a knob. You'll just switch it to manual mode and press the arrow up or down.

 

[iijakii]

For the boil,
Is it possible to just run one element full power and just use the dial on the other element to just give the added power needed?

Yup. I had a 2x 1500w system before and did it that way (but adjusting via manual PID). Although for most cases both were ran full blast.

 

[applescrap]

Sorry deleted i dont understand....4 elements right? Ran by one pid switched into 4 ssrs can this be done?