Golden Naked Oat Kolsch?

[Rustyhub]

Hey all,

So I've really wanted to experiment with Golden Naked Oats and my wedding is coming up (which I am brewing all the beer for) so I wanted to give something new a try.

I have a kolsch recipe that all my buddies liked, and I decided that it might be kind of fun to swap out the white wheat in the recipe for GNO.
It should give it a little body/head retention, and hopefully add a slight subtle sweetness.

I'm also going to use bravo and galaxy hops, since I think those would pair well with GNO.

The recipe:

7lb pils
1lb Vienna
1lb Golden Naked Oats

.5oz Northern Brewer 60 min
1oz Bravo 15 min
1oz Galaxy 5 min

WLP029 Kölsch yeast

Anyone who has experimented with GNO have any thoughts?

 

[brewbama]

Though I like the recipe, I believe a major even is not the time to experiment. I'd wait until afterwards - maybe the next brew day. IMO: Go with something tried and true for the big event.

 

[Rustyhub]

I've got a little time, so I've been experimenting and trying to perfect recipes so when the big brew day happens, I know exactly what I'm brewing.

 

[IslandLizard]

The white wheat you replacing is probably white wheat malt. GNO is a form of (light) crystal malt, leaving a residual sweetness, while providing for an oaty mouthfeel. So it will be quite different, not as crisp as a Kolsch. I'd say go for it. I love oats and GNO is just wonderful!

 

[Yooper]

The white wheat you replacing is probably white wheat malt. GNO is a form of (light) crystal malt, leaving a residual sweetness, while providing for an oaty mouthfeel. So it will be quite different, not as crisp as a Kolsch. I'd say go for it. I love oats and GNO is just wonderful!

I LOVE GNO, but they have a distinct nutty flavor and aroma to them. It could be like the lizard says, but I am not as sure. The reason is that I had a pilsner recently that was pretty good, except I got a "peanuts" aftertaste and I wonder if GNO would translate as peanut taste in a kolsch.

I love them in pale ales and English browns. I'm hesitant to think it would be so great in a kolsch.

 

[IslandLizard]

I LOVE GNO, but they have a distinct nutty flavor and aroma to them. It could be like the lizard says, but I am not as sure. The reason is that I had a pilsner recently that was pretty good, except I got a "peanuts" aftertaste and I wonder if GNO would translate as peanut taste in a kolsch.

I love them in pale ales and English browns. I'm hesitant to think it would be so great in a kolsch.

Excellent point on the slightly nutty flavor the GNO adds, forgot about that. It will be more detectable in a Kolsch type beer, as there is not much else going on than malt.

@Yooper, have you found why that Pilsner tasted like peanuts? That can't be intentional...

 

[Rustyhub]

The white wheat you replacing is probably white wheat malt. GNO is a form of (light) crystal malt, leaving a residual sweetness, while providing for an oaty mouthfeel. So it will be quite different, not as crisp as a Kolsch. I'd say go for it. I love oats and GNO is just wonderful!

Thank you for the correction, yes, I used white wheat malt.
And I sort of think that in the end, I won't quite have a kolsch. Maybe something similar to a kolsch but not exactly bjcp guidelines, as kolsches are supposed to be more on the dry side than the sweet side, if I remember correctly. But I think that it might turn out pretty good anyways, even if i don't decide to call it a kolsch afterwards.

 

[Rustyhub]

I LOVE GNO, but they have a distinct nutty flavor and aroma to them. It could be like the lizard says, but I am not as sure. The reason is that I had a pilsner recently that was pretty good, except I got a "peanuts" aftertaste and I wonder if GNO would translate as peanut taste in a kolsch.

I love them in pale ales and English browns. I'm hesitant to think it would be so great in a kolsch.

I keep reading about the "nutty" flavor that they have. Is there any craft brew out there that you can think of that uses GNO, or anything that I could try with a similar "nutty" taste?

Would this nutty taste be undesirable in a beer hopped with more tropical/sweet hops like bravo and Galaxy?

 

[Yooper]

Excellent point on the slightly nutty flavor the GNO adds, forgot about that. It will be more detectable in a Kolsch type beer, as there is not much else going on than malt.

@Yooper, have you found why that Pilsner tasted like peanuts? That can't be intentional...

No, and I was slightly inebriated when I mentioned it to the brewer (oops) and with his strong Czech accent he seemed to be pretty insulted. But I had another friend (brewer) try it and he agreed.

I keep reading about the "nutty" flavor that they have. Is there any craft brew out there that you can think of that uses GNO, or anything that I could try with a similar "nutty" taste?

Would this nutty taste be undesirable in a beer hopped with more tropical/sweet hops like bravo and Galaxy?

It might be really good together. It's not dry and nutty like victory malt, but more nutty in a less dry way. I know that makes no sense, but that's the way it is. It's not like any commercial beer I've tried.

 

[mkling]

I think this recipe looks good. It sounds like a beer I would enjoy tasting. However, nothing about this recipe says Kolsch to me. Call it anything else. Simply using a kolsch yeast doesn't make this anything like a kolsch.

 

[Rustyhub]

I think this recipe looks good. It sounds like a beer I would enjoy tasting. However, nothing about this recipe says Kolsch to me. Call it anything else. Simply using a kolsch yeast doesn't make this anything like a kolsch.

Yes, I completely agree with you actually. I guess the reason that I called it a kolsch, is because it's based off of my kolsch recipe. I just sub'd GNO in for white wheat malt...and then used completely different hops

So it STARTED as a kolsch, but now I have no idea what it might be.