wheat saison help

[aleksander9]

Hi! I got a crazy idea to make a wheat beer and then add saison yeast (3711). I have tweaked a little on "Bee Cave Brewery Bavarian Hefeweizen", added a little more wheat and pilsner. And also a little rye, for a little spicy taste.
Original recipe:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f70/bee-cave-brewery-bavarian-hefeweizen-35679/

Heres my recipe:

Wheat saison
Batch size: 5,5 gallons
og.1,52-1,65 ,Fg. ?

56% wheat 7,3 lbs
32% Pilsner 4,2 lbs
12% Rye 1,5 lbs

65 c - 90 min, 76 c - 12 min

0.75 oz hallertauer, 45 min
0.25 oz hallertauer, 15 min

Wyeast 3711 (french saison)

Any thoughts?

 

[beergolf]

Saisons are a pretty loose style. If you think about it, the farmers used what they had.

If it was me I would flip the percetages of the wheat and pils, but your recipe will work.

Not knowing the AA of your hops, iI would shoot for a BU:GU ratio of .49 +or- a little and you should be good.

Mash temps look good. 3711 will ferment low and you should have a nice brew. The FG should be 1.002-1.004. Brew software will predict much higher. Even with a FG that low 3711 will give good mothfeel. Dry but good.

 

[GuldTuborg]

Saisons are a pretty loose style.

Exactly this. Saison recipes differ immensely. Mash what you have low and you'll be more than fine. You hopping rate seems lower than most, but that's not necessarily a problem - brew what you like.

 

[aleksander9]

I have magnum (hallertau) 14.6% (14.4% alpha).

 

[tagz]

3711 laughs at your mash temp discussion. And then he spits at your feet.

 

[aleksander9]

Yeah, i know. Have brewed with it before with beastly results.

 

[GuldTuborg]

I have magnum (hallertau) 14.6% (14.4% alpha).

Oh, that's different. Still grown in Hallertau, yes, so it is a Hallertauer, but...I hope you can understand the confusion. When most say "Hallertauer," they're talking Mittelfrueh, Hersbrucker, Tradition, that kind of hop. With the types of cultivars increasingly expanding over there, I suppose one cannot assume anymore.

 

[aleksander9]

UPDATE:
og. 1.55 fg. 1.02(3711, ofcourse!)

Smells green. Wit taste with some saison. Ultra smooth mouthfeel. Little to no aftertaste. So easy to drink, like a wit without the bitterness. Nice summer beer. Cant believe this is 7% alcohol!

If i will brew it again i will add more hops for aroma,taste. Probably add Cascade to the hop bill(late hopping) .maybe some coriander and orange peel to make it a hybrid style saison/wit.