djt17
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Careful...that sounds like labor, it's going to cost you money.I'm going to have to wash up some bottles though. My first All Grain is coming due.
Careful...that sounds like labor, it's going to cost you money.I'm going to have to wash up some bottles though. My first All Grain is coming due.
Soooo, as I understand it, you're able to make beer for economic gain (ie saving money) without labor by doing some magical incantation, called "It's a hobby"'
Why not make all labor a hobby?
Again, none of that is relevant ON THIS WEBSITE,.
As someone who is not yet a homebrewer (I've been on a work trip since I discovered this forum and I'm dying to get back home and try my hand at it) this discussion is similar to something that crops up on motorcycle forums
Every so often someone will post on motorcycle forums saying essentially "I don't have much money, can I save money commuting by motorcycle?"
The answer is usually as heated as this debate is. The cheapest way to get around is to buy a 10 year old corolla/civic. Motorcycles require more maintenance, tires are more expensive, you need to buy gear, and you really need to love it in order to not mind riding when it's cold/hot/raining/etc. However, if you both love riding *and* are willing to skimp and do things halfassed, you can manage to get it cheaper. (buy a 125cc scooter and a used helmet, don't buy good gear, things like that.) If you really love riding, you'll want nice things. Nice things cost money, and then it becomes more than just "cheap commuting", and as we all know, hobbies are expensive unless your hobby is seeing how cheaply you can do things.
It seems like this discussion is similar. If you just want to get drunk, malt liquor or cheap vodka is much less expensive than brewing beer. If you just want to drink beer, a case of decent beer at costco will get the per-bottle cost down to $1 per, without involving hours of work.
Anyway, I'm really looking forward to brewing, I think I'm going to love it. I don't think I'll ever break even over what I'd pay per-bottle for deschutes or alaskan - I like gadgets too much.
You get it. That is the way I felt right before I started. I feel it is the only way to go into it. Passion is what makes good beer. If it wasn't, no one would do all grain as it is much easier to drop a bag a malt into your pot.
So would it be far to say some ppl get into to brewing their own beer because they love doing it and some ppl get into to save money. But in the end if you like doing it your prob going to upgrade gadgets products etc. In the end it's prob. more expensive inless all you buy is 120 min dogfish head with is $160 a case . Witch is ok to do once in a while. But I still don't think you factor in labor as a cost.
well if some one asked how much it cost to go fishing.I would add up equip/ gas/ I would count casting and realing in the line and fighting a fish. If i was fishing for 4 hours should i consider that in the cost. No because i enjoy doing it, same as brewing add up equip. and
ingredients but not the time of brewing it
What if they asked what the cheapest way to get fish was?
What if they asked what the cheapest way to get fish was?
That last post is self contradictory. You think factoring in labor is silly, but you agree that if you don't enjoy the process, you shouldn't brew. Well, if the labor is free, there would be no reason to discount the process as a way to get cheaper beer.
Fly fishing from a stream in your backyard with a pole made from a branch blown off of a tree using butterflies that land on your head as bait.
Hey, you asked.
Correct, but in this case the company is you and the money (profit) is your personal enjoyment. Since all the things you listed were used in leading you to the enjoyment of the beer, yes, they all should be factored into the cost.If you do not use the item on the balance sheet to make the company money in some way, you do not discount its cost!
I think I have commented before, but the logic on this just is weird. I guess this means when I buy a six-pack, I need to factor in the following:
- Prorated time & money it took me to buy my car that drove me there
- Prorated gasoline to drive my car
- The MONEY I used to buy the beer - I need to factor in the time it took me to earn that money, while I am at it
- The time it took me to drive to the store, and buy it, then drive home. I must factor this in or I am cheating I guess
- Prorated price of the bottle opener if not twist off
- Factor in the time it takes me to dispose of the bottles that I cannot reuse
- Prorated cost of the shoes, pants, shirt, jacket (if winter), sunglasses (if summer), and my stained hole ridden ginch. ALL of which I had to wear in order to get to the store
... an hour of masturbation...
I'm trying to search the forum but can't seem to find what I'm looking for.
I would like to brew my own beer, personally I favor something like a Newcastle nut brown ale.
I am curious what it would cost for me to do a typical brew like this and how much beer it would produce. I can buy a 12 pack at a local grocery store for $15-$16. If the cost difference isn't much to brew my own I'm not sure I have the time nor the funds to get started right now. If the cost difference is substantial then I am highly interested in home brewing!
Thanks for any info!
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