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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    I doubt that you get the same pour with 14' you got with 8'. I doubt you use ultra smooth PET. LOL, whatever man, your doubts are not my concern.
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    Wow, you go away for a bit, and when you come back, it's like Rosie O'Donnell's thoughts exploded all over your post. Like I said, it's one of many sources of calculations. However, I did also say that I proved out, with real world flow rates, the calculations I use. While my iPhone acting as...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    I don't think you need continuous flow. Some people let cleaner just sit. I just have read several places that circulation cleaning is far better. In fact, I think I have seen things like circulation is 80x better or 200x better. Now where does that come from? I don't know. I would like to know...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    For anyone interested, here is a video example of how you can use the flow control faucet or similar device. This was done using about 5' if 3/8" line. The first pour is wide open like a normal faucet. The second pour is using the control valve. Once you set the flow rate, you can just leave it...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    Again I don't know, but I was wondering if you may be able to help with the whole 2 gallons per minute thing. My thinking is that this recommendation is based on wanting to have the tube fully saturated. For instance, if the flow rate is coming out a trickle, then not all of the tubes...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    Not a vendor, lol. I even took great care not to mention any brands, give any links to stores, etc. That actually seemed to make some people mad. And common, I'm a troll, really. I am a new member. Thanks for the warm invite. You can see from my one tap setup that I'm just starting. I had...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    I mostly use the calculator mentioned earlier. It seems very accurate to me as I have put the calculations to the test with my equipment, timing the flow rates with a stopwatch. It does not have inputs for line restriction though. Believe me, I know they are expensive. I would not buy 10 of...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    No it does not. The 60' of head is for pushing cleaning solution through at 2 gallons per minute. It's quite a debate in this thread whether that flow rate is required. However as flow rate increases, required head increases exponentialy. To deliver beer at 1 gallon per minute (again not set in...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    Did I say that? Don't think so. Are they the same? I don't know. I doubt it. Aren't those diaphragm pumps? I've never had one.
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    Whether it's unnecessary or not is opinion. If you go the trash it route you could say the manufacture of pumps, chemicals, and extra fittings in unnecessary. I didn't say it doesn't take water, electricity, or chemicals to manufacture the line, lol. I don't have to use water, electricity, or...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    LOL, good one, do you replace all the seals and other surfaces as well? Still funny.
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    I guess this just comes down to how much your time is worth to you, or put another way how lazy you are. I won't drive across town to save a couple of bucks on gas but I drive a small car. If I had a 60 gal tank and I could save $15 a week, sure. I mean think of it this way. A one tap or two...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    I really don't know. This really does have me intrigued a bit. I think I really am going to break out the microscope and see how fast the stuff grows. Even if you can see it, I guess it does not matter if you can't taste it or if you don't mind the taste.
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    I also love how everyone that is complaining about vinyl line leaching flavors into the beer doesn't care about the oils and lubricants in cheap pond pumps.:D
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    lol, ok well you said bevlex 200. Still, http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.com/accuflex-bev-seal-ultra-3-16-50/ this is $0.32 per foot so that doesn't change anything does it.
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    The answer to that again is that it depends. If you're replace one 5' line 6 times a year, then sure. One 10' line, two 5' lines, sure. I'm throwing it out there as an option. If you do the math you can decide if it makes sense for you. I mean hell, even if it's just a little bit more...
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    Line Cleaning - Let's talk options

    Your choice of beer line is not really my point. That's why I didn't list it to begin with. http://www.hopgoblin.com/bevlex-200-p/kg87901.htm Here your bevlex 200 is $0.31 per foot. I bet a 100 foot roll is cheaper. But that would cost me $1.55 to replace on one tap which is what I have. I am...
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    Again, just talking options. I don't think holding back an option because it doesn't apply to some makes sense. As far as flow rate goes, again if you think your lines are clean enough, then more power to you. The flow rate recommended by DQM was mentioned for cleaning but it seems that the...
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    I don't know, lol. That's just what I have seen recommended. Here is a link to the website I have mentioned. http://www.draughtquality.org/ Here is a direct link to the PDF http://www.draughtquality.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DQM_Full_Final.pdf Here is a link to a Youtube video I...
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    I agree with you. I have not had a problem with taste using standard beer line. I have bought it both at my local shop and online. As to stuff growing in the fridge, I've seen it, lol. Usually on my wife's cooking. I don't know how fast it happens but I don't know why it would be recommended if...
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