a ris doesn't really need much if any crystal imo. 20+ lbs of either maris otter or american 2 row, 2 lbs of roasted barley, 1 lb of black prinz. cold steep the black grains overnight & strain, boil and add to end of boil. for a 1090 beer i'd try to get 40-50 ibu out of a magnum fwh and...