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I have 2 girls & 1 boy. Now in their 20's. It's true what they say, "Little kids, Little Problems - Big kids, Big problems"

My girls were as easy as pie to raise. Almost on remote control. My 1 boy has been a nightmare! Holy Smokes! I've told him all along he gets to stay home until he's 25. Then he gets the boot. I have a sneaking suspicion he'll wait until a week before his birthday, then he'll join the military. :(
 
MalFet said:
Unfortunately, get used to it. Pregnancy causes some kind of social boundary distortion field. In the period before, during, and immediately after it, strangers and near-strangers will inexplicably feel entitled to say and do things that would be obviously inappropriate under any other circumstances.

If you really want to buy some time, tell your wife that -- for the entire duration of her pregnancy -- total strangers will comment at least once a day about what she is eating.
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Agreed. I had people i didn't know walk up and touch my belly, tell me what i was eating shouldn't be consumed while preggers, and any other unwanted comments.
About a year after the baby's arrival she should prepare for the 'when is the next one due' comments. Those still piss me off.
 
CreamyGoodness said:
I think the best explanation I have for what I am feeling is the fact that I agonize over every big decision. I did about moving in with SWMBO, and then about getting married, and now about this. The difference is that getting married didnt really change anything... and fortunately or unfortunately... there is still an "out".

Every time, it seems, I start feeling like I have all the information I need and I can see myself as a father I see or read something that makes me recoil in terror. Like the dad who took his eyes off his toddler for less than 30 seconds and it wound up getting flip kicked 10 feet up in the air by a breakdancer. Seriously, think Guile from Streetfighter.

We let my landlord's daughter in the house to charge her phone while she waited for her parents and she told stories about living in our apartment. Apparently her baby brother got his head caught in the bars on the back door. Great.

Or when Im on the train and there's a beautiful cute kid. And I smile and think, "yeah I could do this"... and then the little bastard lets out a high pitched scream that all but shatters the glass windows. And everyone looks at his dad like "shut the kid up or kill it I dont care which".
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There's a school of thought that says if you are having these irrational fears you'll make a wonderful dad. We all have irrational fears about our kids - it's normal (even if we don't admit it we have them).
 
I stopped reading after the cinnamon part. A tablespoon? Really. It doesn't sound like a challenge. I just tried it and washed it down with a saison. It was pretty good combo. No hospital for me.
 
JRems said:
I stopped reading after the cinnamon part. A tablespoon? Really. It doesn't sound like a challenge. I just tried it and washed it down with a saison. It was pretty good combo. No hospital for me.
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I seem to recall it is to be eaten without liquid. The trick being you think you can produce enough saliva to moisten it but only cover the outer part. Then you attempt to swallow and when you fail breathe in and cough out a cloud. No thanks.

I do seem to remember there was a "challenge" about eating x number of crackers in under a time limit that was the same way something like 12 years ago.
 
I wanted to wait until my wife and I were sure that we were ready to have kids, financially and otherwise. It took my wife a while to convince me that we were probably as ready as we would ever be and that we weren't getting any younger (in our 30s). I love being a dad and spending time with my little girl and can't wait to meet the next one in November. We often remark though, that karma is gonna kick our asses when our kids are teens, because we were both bat**** wild.
 
My guys are 21 and 19 now, still present challenges, but that's life. As Malfet and others have mentioned, life doesn't end with kids. Like others, I didn't start brewing until I had those little buggers. For me, my life would be empty without them.
 
man, you know when it is time, if at all. My wife and I were together 19 years and married for 13 of them before we had our one and only child. My wife and I traveled a lot before he was born. He was born the month before I turned 40. He is the best thing EVER..... I know at some point he will be a pain in the ass but that is to be expected. we include him in all things and he has a blast. He has been to Colorado, Penn, AZ, Nevada and even Mexico twice. Kids will be a blessing and maybe a pain. The only thing you should do is be honest with your wife. If you raise them right, they will make mistakes but learn from them. Just stay involved in their lives, know their friends and the friends' parents, maintain open lines of communication with your child.....always be there to offer advice

Speedy
 
There are all kinds of joys and aggravations raising kids, lots of times when you want to hug them tight - or drop them off at the county jail.

But for sure when your kids have kids, that's when it all seems totally worth it...

Cheers! (Dad to two sons, Papa to two grandsons - so far!)
 
Im 39 never had my own kids,Just got married 2 months ago,my wife Ive been with each other for almost nine years now,and never thought Id get married she has 2 boys 10&12 now which Ive basically raised so far. JUst found out today she is now pregnant! I was shocked and a bit scared and tripped out at first but now I just feel joy and anticipation/excitement of new plans. After being "carefull" about having kids for the last 8 years-it shure didnt take more than a few times for it to actually happen which we decided to try(kind-of). And in the time it could have happendI thought the odds were against me anyway,guess it was meant to be. Guess Ill be driving my 230000 miled car still for the next few years as I was saving for a downpayment on a new one soon-guess not now.Couldnt get her on my insurance in the 30 day period after getting married which wasnt discussed with me with my job.Grr.Hopefully she has it in Jan when I can sign her back on. I cant really just whip out 15 thousand dollars in a year or two. F hospitals and doctors anyway you dont always need them,right? I waste much money on unneaded (so-called) health insurance anyway when I really only believe in wholeistic doctors for the most part. Maybe its time I learn what the ef to do,hell they did it all the time back in the day without hospitals,why succome?
 
CreamyGoodness said:
My Wife: "Doesnt a child that looks like you and talks like you an exciting idea?"

Me: "... ... ... I'm going to be sick"
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My answer...the last thing this sad world needs is two of me running around...

I am fixed BTW, the cornerstone of my strategy to save the world...
 
jonmohno said:
Im 39 never had my own kids,Just got married 2 months ago,my wife Ive been with each other for almost nine years now,and never thought Id get married she has 2 boys 10&12 now which Ive basically raised so far. JUst found out today she is now pregnant! I was shocked and a bit scared and tripped out at first but now I just feel joy and anticipation/excitement of new plans. After being "carefull" about having kids for the last 8 years-it shure didnt take more than a few times for it to actually happen which we decided to try(kind-of). And in the time it could have happendI thought the odds were against me anyway,guess it was meant to be. Guess Ill be driving my 230000 miled car still for the next few years as I was saving for a downpayment on a new one soon-guess not now.Couldnt get her on my insurance in the 30 day period after getting married which wasnt discussed with me with my job.Grr.Hopefully she has it in Jan when I can sign her back on. I cant really just whip out 15 thousand dollars in a year or two. F hospitals and doctors anyway you dont always need them,right? I waste much money on unneaded (so-called) health insurance anyway when I really only believe in wholeistic doctors for the most part. Maybe its time I learn what the ef to do,hell they did it all the time back in the day without hospitals,why succome?
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Congratulations!
 
jonmohno said:
I cant really just whip out 15 thousand dollars in a year or two. F hospitals and doctors anyway you dont always need them,right? I waste much money on unneaded (so-called) health insurance anyway when I really only believe in wholeistic doctors for the most part. Maybe its time I learn what the ef to do,hell they did it all the time back in the day without hospitals,why succome?
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It's $15k to have a kid in the States?!

(and congrats on the upcoming baby fun times! :D)
 
My wife tried to eat tons of nutmeg because she heard it was a hallucinogen (if you ate lots). She didn't manage to down a single tablespoon and choked on it, instead. She's a Dean's List grad with straight A+ across the board... stupid kid-mistakes don't mean that they're stupid people.

And that's coocoo banana. I live in Socialist Canada, so I was mega-pissed when I had to pay $100/night for a private room. But from what I've heard, the care in the US is miles ahead. We had a good experience, but I slept on the most uncomfortable cot that man has ever invented.
 
SudsyPaul said:
My wife tried to eat tons of nutmeg because she heard it was a hallucinogen (if you ate lots). She didn't manage to down a single tablespoon and choked on it, instead.
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And she wasn't wrong. Just be prepared to wait 6 hours for your body to metabolise it before it kicks in. And to be high for the next two days.

I can't disclose how I have that first-hand information. :cross:
 
LOL - she didn't know at that time, but apparently you need to ingest 1lb for it to work?! That's insane. She gave up after 1tbsp and decided that there were other things to pursue :p
 
SudsyPaul said:
LOL - she didn't know at that time, but apparently you need to ingest 1lb for it to work?! That's insane. She gave up after 1tbsp and decided that there were other things to pursue :p
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Actually you only need to start with fresh, whole nutmeg and grind it down yourself. Only a few tablespoons needed. Mix with milk, steel your nerves and down it as fast as possible. Erowid.org for more info.
 
Creamy, if you're not wealthy enough to pay somebody to wipe your butt for you when you're 90, you'll need kids to guilt into doing it for you. At some point you might want to unleash a younger, updated version of yourself on humanity; just to get even.

Then again, if you do have kids, you'll likely be sleep deprived for the next 7 years. Last time I checked, it was about $6,000.00 per kid at the hospital; THEN you get all those dr bills as they're growing up. Kind of a toss up eh? I know this isn't very helpful, but don't sweat it. Just live life & let whatever happens, happen. Life is too damned short not to live it with some gusto. In the immortal words of Henry David Thoreau:

"I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived."

Do what you think is best for you both. :mug:
Regards, GF.
 
I've been speaking to a few friends that are on the fence for kids... and I all I keep telling them is that if you don't WANT kids, don't have them.

I love mine more than anything on the face of this planet, and that's what makes all the headaches worthwhile. I wanted to have a child with my wife, and that's why I assume responsibilities as I do. The headaches and difficulties were known beforehand, and I accepted the responsibility of dealing with these (with my wife) before we even had our daughter.

It's not easy raising a child, so if you're not interested, don't bother with it. Don't chance that you'll enjoy parenting afterwards.
 

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