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Hi all.
This is my first attempt at creating my own recipe.
I want something along the lines of Paulaner's Octoberfest Marzen.

I want to brew an extract Oktoberfest that I don't have to lager.
I have looked to EdWort's for inspiration ( https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f63/bee-cave-brewery-oktoberfest-ale-38880/ )

I would also like suggestions for an alternative DRY yeast that I could use.

Please let me know your thoughts.


Brew Method: Extract
Style Name: Oktoberfest/Märzen
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5.25 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 3.75 gallons
Efficiency: 35% (steeping grains only)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.062
Final Gravity: 1.015
ABV (standard): 6.08%
IBU (rager): 24.2
SRM (morey): 11.68

FERMENTABLES:
3 lb - Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light (31.6%)
4 lb - Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light - (late addition) (42.1%)

STEEPING GRAINS:
1.5 lb - German - CaraMunich III (15.8%)
1 lb - German - Caramel Pils (10.5%)

HOPS:
1 oz - Domestic Hallertau for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 3.9, IBU: 17.15)
0.5 oz - Domestic Hallertau for 30 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 3.9, IBU: 4.76)
0.5 oz - Domestic Hallertau for 15 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 3.9, IBU: 2.29)

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
1 tsp - Irish Moss, Time: 15 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil

YEAST:
White Labs - German Ale/ Kölsch Yeast WLP029
Starter: No
Form: Liquid
Attenuation (avg): 75%
Flocculation: Medium
Optimum Temp: 65 - 69 F
Fermentation Temp: 65 F


More Info:
I also found this on another forum, which is purported to be an email response from Paulaner...
"The marzen beer is a typical beer for the south bavarian region and is brewed with more than 70% of dark barley malt (munich malt type) an 30% of pilsner barley malt.

The Paulaner brewery have more than 14 malt suppliers which are producing the malt after our special quality guide line.

Hop: all Paulaner beer types are produced with 100% hop from the "Hallertau". The varieties are Hallertauer Tradition (fine aroma hop), and hallertauer taurus (bitter hop)"



THANKS! :mug:
 
Brew Method: Extract

FERMENTABLES:
3 lb - Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light (31.6%)
4 lb - Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light - (late addition) (42.1%)

STEEPING GRAINS:
1.5 lb - German - CaraMunich III (15.8%)
1 lb - German - Caramel Pils (10.5%)

HOPS:
1 oz - Domestic Hallertau for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 3.9, IBU: 17.15)
0.5 oz - Domestic Hallertau for 30 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 3.9, IBU: 4.76)
0.5 oz - Domestic Hallertau for 15 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 3.9, IBU: 2.29)

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
1 tsp - Irish Moss, Time: 15 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil

YEAST:
White Labs - German Ale/ Kölsch Yeast WLP029
Starter: No
Form: Liquid
Attenuation (avg): 75%
Flocculation: Medium
Optimum Temp: 65 - 69 F
Fermentation Temp: 65 F


More Info:
I also found this on another forum, which is purported to be an email response from Paulaner...
"The marzen beer is a typical beer for the south bavarian region and is brewed with more than 70% of dark barley malt (munich malt type) an 30% of pilsner barley malt.


Please let me know your thoughts.



OK. CaraMunich is not Munich malt, it's crystal malt and 15.8% is too much. Although I have only seen it in liquid, use some Munich malt extract in the recipe base. Briess makes a Munich LME (there might be others) and even though it is probably derived from domestic 6-row Munich I would think that it will give you better color and flavor enhancements than using the darker crystal on top of the light DME. Your research says that Paulaner uses a high percentage of Munich in their beer so follow that lead. The 10.5% dextrine malt also seems too much, cut back on that. The hops could also be pared down by eliminating the last addition. Hop aroma is not a prominent element of this style. I'd use German hops if you can, Hallertau or Spalt, but the domestic Hallertau-triploid varieties like Mt. Hood also do a great job. As for the yeast you probably already know that even a clean ale yeast is not going to make a beer equal to a lager but the 1007 is not a bad choice at all.

Here's my quick modified recipe list:

3.3 lbs Munich LME
3 lbs Extra Light or Pilsner DME
.5 lb CaraMunich II
.5 lb Dextrin malt (CaraPils/CarFoam)

1 oz 4% AA Hallertau/Noble type @ 60 min
.5 oz 4% AA Hallertau/Noble type @ 30 min

:mug:
 
How's this look? It's a Lager now...

OG: 1.057
IBU: 20
SRM: 10
60 min boil
4 gal boil
5.25 gal in fermenter

5 lbs Munich malt 52.6%
2 lbs Pilsner malt 21.1%

Partial Mash for 60 min at 152*

2.5 lbs Extra Light DME 26.3%
1oz Hallertau at 60 min
1oz Hallertau at 30 min

ferment with 2 packs Safale 34/70 at 54*

better?
Thanks!
 
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